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Old 10-16-2015, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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"A hero acts without consequences". Tell me how a guy who first works for the NSA (and somehow isn't sure of what they do exactly), steals information, breaks the law and his contract completely and then gives it over to the media (of whom only really care about ratings), and then runs away to hide in a country with the absolute opposite culture of what he claims he is protecting, is somehow anything remotely akin to hero??

Oh, and all the while endangering the lives and security of Americans. What a tool.
I don't agree with the facts you suggest. Every American and the world now knows about the secret spying. Few did before. He was unable to leave Russia as the US suspended his passport. He says that he felt that he had to reveal the issue as a matter of conscience and to alert the people what was happening. In doing so he risked his life and his future.

Sounds a hero to me. But hey, I remember what America is supposed to be ...ya know right...?

Land of the Free Home of the brave. He set people free from a deception and did so with bravery. Sounds like a regular guy to me.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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What isn't a joke is that Snowden will do time should he ever set foot back on US soil, and its likely that Hillary will be the next President.
Unfortunately, you might be correct. And that's sickening.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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There are distinct opinions. If you are comfortable with the government having the ability to go through your life arrest you without charge and imprison you without trial you should see Snowden as a villain. Granted the chances of that happening are slim, however, many people feel they are not. If you feel that the countless million secrets are important for the functioning of the society in the world we live in then so be it. Many agree. However, we know for sure that absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you have any doubts ask any number of leaders in the "free" world who were wiretapped and spied on. See what they think. While it's easier to dismiss Snowden as a "douche" your word...instead of actually thinking what he did (in my opinion) catch the NSA in a criminal conspiracy.

However it plays out, his actions have changed the country and the laws. His impact now and in the future will be significant. I don't know about you, but I would not be as poised as he was if the NSA and governments around the world were after me...you?

A hero acts without regard for the consequences.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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I don't agree with the facts you suggest. Every American and the world now knows about the secret spying. Few did before. He was unable to leave Russia as the US suspended his passport. He says that he felt that he had to reveal the issue as a matter of conscience and to alert the people what was happening. In doing so he risked his life and his future.

Sounds a hero to me. But hey, I remember what America is supposed to be ...ya know right...?

Land of the Free Home of the brave. He set people free from a deception and did so with bravery. Sounds like a regular guy to me.
Sounds like a coward.

If he felt he was so right, why did he run?
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Sounds like a coward.

If he felt he was so right, why did he run?
Watch the movie. Your question will be answered.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:17 AM
 
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Watch the movie. Your question will be answered.
No.

I won't watch what Hollywood glamorizes or takes a creative license with the truth.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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Default Democracy Lost

When you know what really happened to NSA whistleblower William Binney it becomes painfully clear that Edward Snowden had no choice but to do what he did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-3K3rkPRE

That's right, Mr. Binney was interrogated at gun point by the FBI even though formal charges were never brought against him.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:20 AM
 
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When you know what really happened to NSA whistleblower William Binney it becomes painfully clear that Edward Snowden had no choice but to do what he did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-3K3rkPRE

That's right, Mr. Binney was interrogated at gun point by the FBI even though formal charges were never brought against him.
Everybody has a choice.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Unfortunately, you might be correct. And that's sickening.
It would be great to have a better option.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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"A hero acts without consequences". Tell me how a guy who first works for the NSA (and somehow isn't sure of what they do exactly), steals information, breaks the law and his contract completely and then gives it over to the media (of whom only really care about ratings), and then runs away to hide in a country with the absolute opposite culture of what he claims he is protecting, is somehow anything remotely akin to hero??

Oh, and all the while endangering the lives and security of Americans. What a tool.
Hillary Clinton: Heroine, or snatch?

Source: FBI probe of Clinton email focused on

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