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Here we go again! CityData posters politicising a shooting!
Actually..Gun Rights to MASS SHOOT innocents that happens routinely..gets Validated when Congress, due to "Political activist, 2nd Amendment Right Activists" is Political..So why should it surprise you?..
ANY POTUS who has to come out monthly to express condolences for the deaths of so many innocents..and at this point..NOTHING he can do unilaterally..IT has to be done by citzen pressures of their elected member's..BO knows that...although it came close after Sandy Hook..Nadda!! Money buys Congressional votes..and best $ Gun Manufacturers ever spent ...SMH
Since when was killing of innocents and a Government NOT even trying to make some changes by making new common sense laws NOT a Political Issue???..The loss of innocents ( 126 mass shooting in schools alone since Sandy Hook).should make a difference..BUT it doesn't..and 'tude's like yours speaks to why NOTHING CAN CHANGE!!
Too bad your argument is bunk. Oregon allows guns on campus.
I guess it didn't work since these things tend to end in either the suicide of the shooter or him being taken out by law enforcement. it's time to have better and tighter gun regulations. The sorry argument that more guns would solve this is absurd. Airplanes are gun free zones too and look how rare a gun battle on a plane is. Every one of our rights has reasonable limitations, including arms.
I can't believe you would actually use this as an example. You can't use an "enforceable" example to say why something that can never be enforced, will work. That's Nuts. Look at what the person has to go through to board a Plane. Are you going to do the same out here in the real World? That's hilarious.
Actually..Gun Rights to MASS SHOOT innocents that happens routinely..gets disagreed by Congress due to "Political activist 2nd Amendment Right Activists" is Political..So why should it surprise you..ANY POTUS who has to come out monthly to express condolences for the deaths of so many innocents..and at this point..NOTHING he can do unilaterally..IT has to be done by citen pressures of their elected member's..BO knows that...although it came close after Sandy Hook..Nadda!! Money buys Congressional votes..and best $ Gun Manufacturers ever spent ...DMH
Since when was killing of innocents and a Government NOT even trying to make some changes by making new common sense laws NOT Political..The loss of innocents ( 126 mass shooting in schools alone since Sandy Hook).should make a difference..BUT it doesn't..and 'tude's like yours speaks to why NOTHING CAN CHANGE!!
My 'tude? I think you're confused on who you're talking to.
I was on the original thread about the shooting when it first happened actually expressing shock and horror that this was taking place considering it's about 2.5 hours south of where I live and I have a co-worker from Roseburg.
My comment was related to the irony of the fact that the title of this thread claims Obama was politicizing the shooting when 95% of the posts on CityData about the shooting have been politicizing it(referencing everything from Obama to Muslims to conspiracy theories). No one really seems to care about the victims, it's just a bunch of angry blowhards.
I am rather amazed that you don't see that mental illness has been behind each and every one of these shootings.
Here's the problem with the whole "it's not guns that are the problem, it's the mentally ill" argument. The majority of times the shooter was never identified as being mentally ill before he went on his killing spree. How do you propose to find them before they snap? Should we all be required to submit to mental health testing? Maybe we should be required to be certified as not mentally ill? Not only is that not practical, but it would be costly, and no doubt there would be strong objections about privacy, etc. So...if the problem is mental illness, how, exactly, to you propose to stop these mass shootings if not to restrict the easy accessibility to firearms?
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Originally Posted by freightshaker
The accessibility of illegal firearms is not going to stop because of the passage of a law. Some of the cities with the strictest gun laws in the country have the worst gun violence in the country. The only ones there not armed are the normal citizens. The criminals and loons still have their guns irrespective of your laws. Take a look at Baltimore, Chicago and the list goes on and on. Gun laws only keep guns out of the hands of responsible citizens. They do nothing to prevent criminals and lunatics from obtaining them.
I agree, local gun laws are as pointless as the old smoking sections in restaurants used to be, when the non-smoking section was one table over. Nothing stops someone from carrying a gun across a city or county or state line. What is needed is comprehensive federal laws that will restrict access to firearms regardless of the locality.
Well said, there are other countries with gun free zones, there are actually gun free countries and they also have mentally ill individuals, the one thing that sets us apart is the amount of guns and their easy availability. No country has mass shootings like this.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The ONE thing? So all of these other countries have 300+ million people? Tens of millions of illegals? Great "diversity" in race and income? Nearly half of their population not carrying their own weight and on welfare? And yet you focus on the one partisan issue you care about, guns.
I suppose you think Japan is exactly like the US except for banning guns.
Here we go again! CityData posters politicising a shooting!
This SHOULD be politicized - in a productive manner.
And when you dig in your heels and say that you'd rather these massacres continue to be commonplace than try to do something to keep guns out of the hands of at least the craziest people, then YOU are politicizing a shooting... in the WORST way possible.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The ONE thing? So all of these other countries have 300+ million people? Tens of millions of illegals? Great "diversity" in race and income? Nearly half of their population not carrying their own weight and on welfare? And yet you focus on the one partisan issue you care about, guns.
I suppose you think Japan is exactly like the US except for banning guns.
No other country is at all like the US.
The majority of shooters are young, white American males.
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