Here We Go Again! Shooting at Oregon Community College. (Afghanistan, Michigan, officials)

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88

#1 I am in total agreement

#2 that's not my call to make. I am not a professional but there are plenty out there who are qualified.

We need a process to determine this kind of criteria, with plenty of oversight to ensure there's no abuse and that people aren't losing their rights for no good reason. For those who are denied their rights because of mental defect, we need to ensure that due process is afforded.


We could start by putting some barriers in front of gun ownership. I hate to say it but at this point I'm thinking licensing complete with mental health screening for first tome buyers....

Is it an infringement of Rights according to the letter and spirit of the BoR? Yep, I'd have to say so, but that's where we're at in America. We either make tough concessions like these, or yes, we accept this as the new normal. We accept that at any time, any place, and at any moment, we can become a part of some basement dwellers personal revolution against society....

So which is it?

The concession would be that is no longer a right.
It would be a privilege granted only under the auspices of a government beaurocrats.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

To the right-wingers who think arming the entire populous would curb mass shootings... FORT HOOD.

Melting down the majority of the 300+ million guns in this country would slow the shootings. Nothing less would suffice.

Perhaps you should have sprinkled this post with some honesty.
Sorry to hear you don't seem to respect the country by ublive in.

[Ih2puo]

So now we know.

On Tuesday, Harper-Mercer answered a discussion thread asking: “How many girlfriends you have had?”

“0,” he wrote. “Never had anyone.”

The day before the shooting, a poster replied to him in the thread saying, “You must be saving yourself for someone special. In due time then......”

“Involuntarily so,” Harper-Mercer responded.

Plus a teetotaler. Can't trust em.


Oregon community college gunman sympathized with Va. TV shooter, shared Newtown school shooting documentary

The shooter’s stepsister said the tragedy made no sense.

“I’m shaking right now,” she told reporters. “He meant a lot to me. He was a nice guy, and he put everyone before himself ... it doesn't sound right. All he ever did was put everyone before himself. He wanted everyone to be happy.”

False flag ammo.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by whogo

I am just saying that we better be careful about this. We don't want everyone who has ever been treated for a mental illness to lose rights. What sort of mental illnesses do you think should preclude someone from gun ownership?

Ones that have exhibited previous violent behavior. Will that stop every bad thing from happening? No. Nothing will.

There may be other things we can do but we will never know because we refuse to discuss it.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by KaraBenNemsi

I stopped arguing with gun nuts. There's only one way to deal with them: Government flown AC-130s. Let them take out the South Chicago gangs, the gun shows, the Remington & Colt factories, the NRA building.

And make our country safe again from ourselves.

You are the one that is sounding like the nut.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by jamies

So - you want to KILL me because I want the right to defend my family from crazy people and criminals, and uphold the Constitution.

Ghod help our nation if this is how the anti-gun nuts feel. Clearly as we have feared, lawful firearm owners are in serious physical danger both from anti-gun zealots and our very government.

If we let them take our right to keep and bear arms, America is over. Once again, Obama has jumped in to demand more controls after this incident.

We already have enough controls. The problem lies elsewhere.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by whogo

So the mentally ill should be deprived of their second amendment rights? What classifications of mental illness should be denied gun ownership?

The problem here is that the Leftists think anyone who likes guns, wants to own a gun, is "mentally ill." They describe gun owners as "gun nuts."

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by texan2yankee

States would need to pass laws that allow mentally ill patients to be hospitalized against their will.

Currently, laws can make it almost impossible to hospitalize adults involuntarily, even when their families or caregivers feel threatened and they are extremely sick.

I doubt the politicians or citizens of this country have the stomach to go there, however.

The don't necessarily need to be hospitalized, they just need to be separated from their guns. Other countries seem to do a better job addressing mentally ill, in many of these cases people see that there is a problem yet there they are showing up on a school campus one day with a 5 guns.

Mass shootings like this haappen every few months now, there needs to be a solution.

[Vascodagama]

As soon as Obama leaves office the senseless high profile mass shootings will stop ... unless Hillary or another establishment puppet get's back into the White House.

[Spartacus713]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Norway has had exactly 1 mass shooting in the last 15 years and it accounted for 75% of the shooting deaths in that country over that same 10 year period.

Norway may very well be the worst example you could have come up with.

The entire population of Norway is about 5 million people, which is less than the metropolitan area of any of the top ten American cities. Compared to the US population of about 320 million, that is 1.5% of the US population.