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If every citizen in Japan was armed to the teeth, WWII would not have lasted 5 minutes longer than it did.
Those who ballyhoo the second amendment fail to consider that the OK Corral shootout was long ago.
LOL! funny you should say that.
It was well known the ONLY REASON our soil was not invaded by both the Japanese and the Germans, was because every man, woman & child was armed and the worlds best marksmen.
I think any competent Leader and Generals planning an invasion of the U.S has to take into account that in the U.S. there are more firearms than residents.....not only they have to worry about our military if they can get pass that then they have to deal with the 340 million firearms plus owned by residents during the occupation and ask themselves "is it worth it"?
I think any competent Leader and Generals planning an invasion of the U.S has to take into account that in the U.S. there are more firearms than residents.....not only they have to worry about our military if they can get pass that then they have to deal with the 340 million firearms plus owned by residents during the occupation and ask themselves "is it worth it"?
When one's mortality comes into question, miracles happen and happen quick.
There is a reason it is the 2nd amendment and not someplace else in the bill of rights.
The placement of each amendment in the bill of rights, was significant and had meaning.
They were not written down as they came to mind and the paper was signed.
You had to talk first before shooting each other to know what you were shooting at each other about.... the 1st amendment
Yah right - two posts totally ignorant to reality and reason
You should both carry on taking comfort in the 9mm at your bed sides, ignoring the statistics of guns at home, but believe in the hypothetical fantasies you have about blowing away the boogieman than bursts through your front door.
Unfortunately, guns can't discriminate between criminals and innocent bystanders. Studies have shown that unintentional shootings are four times as common as occurrences of gun use in legitimate home defense situations. You'd actually be more likely, statistically speaking, to shoot someone by accident than you are to shoot a home invader.
Having a gun in the house also increases your own chances of becoming the victim of a firearm-related homicide or suicide in the home. Researchers have found that this holds true regardless of the type of gun you own, how you store it, or how many guns you own.
Finally, if you have children, you should take into account how the presence of a firearm in the home might affect their safety. Most gun-owning parents take precautions to keep their children from finding and handling the family's firearms. However, despite these efforts, children often handle guns in the home without their parents' knowledge; in one study, 22% of parents who believed that their children had never handled the guns in the home were contradicted by the children themselves. Further, when a child or teen is killed by a firearm, the gun that killed them comes from their own home fully 72 percent of the time.
The researchers that your refer to are have anti gun agendas and skew stats to fit their needs.
I prefer to believe the FBI, and the top self defense experts in the country.
I believe in educating children in firearm safety if you have firearms in the home.
1) The feeling is mutual about the ignorance here.
2) We have over 340 million guns in the U.S. more than residents if your ignorant opinions are correct, we would have a HOLOCAUST coast to coast of guns deaths especially children....but the FBI stats doesn't back up your claim.
3) 2013 they had 8,854 homicides due to firearms......in accidental deaths is less than 700 per year........take out your crayons and try to do some basic math......in a country of 320 million residents plus the 20 million illegals and open borders in a country that has more firearms than people that's a very low number in accidents and homicides ....accidental deaths is what less than 1% of the population.
4) if you bias and in my opinion ignorant opinion that guns makes you less safe than we would have millions of deaths and accidents due to the 340 million plus of firearms in the U.S......again, we have more firearms than people in our country.
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The researchers that your refer to are have anti gun agendas and skew stats to fit their needs.
I prefer to believe the FBI, and the top self defense experts in the country.
I believe in educating children in firearm safety if you have firearms in the home.
You simply cannot invent your own reality, and then accuse those who disagree as ignorant. While the percentage of gun crime is small compared to overall ownership, that doesn't mean that guns are safe, provide adequate protection or are not contributing to a rate of gun violence experienced nowhere else in the developed world.
As for the FBI - A recent FBI study of 160 public mass murders (committed or attempted) with guns between 2000 and 2013 found most ended when the assailants fled or killed themselves. In 21 instances the attacker was restrained by unarmed people; in only one did the shooting stop after an intervention by a civilian armed with a gun (rather than by a security guard or policeman). The Violence Policy Centre, an advocacy group, points out that Americans who legally carry concealed weapons are far more likely to perpetrate mass shootings than prevent them; it counts 29 such events since 2007. And while gun-wielding bystanders rarely curtail killings, they may aim badly and confuse the cops.
This dilemma is an iteration of a broader question: whether keeping guns makes people safer. A growing majority of Americans think it does—another mistaken conviction. Daniel Webster of the Johns Hopkins Centre for Gun and Policy Research says that, other factors being equal, keeping a gun at home is associated with a double or triple risk of homicide. What holds for homes is also true of states and countries: more guns mean more gun-related murders, tragic accidents and suicides.
Yet, amid the drumbeat of bloody news, well-meaning, fearful individuals take the seemingly rational decision to arm themselves. Almost all plan to be prudent with their guns. That, alas, is what everyone thinks.
You simply cannot invent your own reality, and then accuse those who disagree as ignorant. While the percentage of gun crime is small compared to overall ownership, that doesn't mean that guns are safe, provide adequate protection or are not contributing to a rate of gun violence experienced nowhere else in the developed world.
As for the FBI - A recent FBI study of 160 public mass murders (committed or attempted) with guns between 2000 and 2013 found most ended when the assailants fled or killed themselves. In 21 instances the attacker was restrained by unarmed people; in only one did the shooting stop after an intervention by a civilian armed with a gun (rather than by a security guard or policeman). The Violence Policy Centre, an advocacy group, points out that Americans who legally carry concealed weapons are far more likely to perpetrate mass shootings than prevent them; it counts 29 such events since 2007. And while gun-wielding bystanders rarely curtail killings, they may aim badly and confuse the cops.
This dilemma is an iteration of a broader question: whether keeping guns makes people safer. A growing majority of Americans think it does—another mistaken conviction. Daniel Webster of the Johns Hopkins Centre for Gun and Policy Research says that, other factors being equal, keeping a gun at home is associated with a double or triple risk of homicide. What holds for homes is also true of states and countries: more guns mean more gun-related murders, tragic accidents and suicides.
Yet, amid the drumbeat of bloody news, well-meaning, fearful individuals take the seemingly rational decision to arm themselves. Almost all plan to be prudent with their guns. That, alas, is what everyone thinks.
We have over 340 million firearms in the U.S. more than legal residents and illegals combine and only less than 1% of the population commit crimes or have accidents with firearms then your opinion that having firearms is not safe is baseless and yes IGNORANT. We would have a holocaust of deaths every day from coast to coast if your opinion is fact.
You assume that 99% of gun owners are reckless with their guns and their kids are not safe in their homes because of it.
Guns saves lives, you just don't hear it in the liberal bias media. They only report 24/7 the homicides of guns (and selective) And guns is not only to kill people, it is also use to deter criminals from violent crimes.....if somebody comes with a knife and I pull my gun, 9/10 that criminal will not continue unless he wants to die.
Surveys of American gun owners have found that 4 to 6 percent reported using a gun in self-defense within the previous five years. That is not a very high percentage but, in a country with 300 million people, that works out to hundreds of thousands of defensive uses of guns per year.
Yet we almost never hear about these hundreds of thousands of defensive uses of guns from the media, which will report the killing of a dozen people endlessly around the clock.
1) The feeling is mutual about the ignorance here.
2) We have over 340 million guns in the U.S. more than residents if your ignorant opinions are correct, we would have a HOLOCAUST coast to coast of guns deaths especially children....but the FBI stats doesn't back up your claim.
3) 2013 they had 8,854 homicides due to firearms......in accidental deaths is less than 700 per year........take out your crayons and try to do some basic math......in a country of 320 million residents plus the 20 million illegals and open borders in a country that has more firearms than people that's a very low number in accidents and homicides ....accidental deaths is what less than 1% of the population.
4) if you bias and in my opinion ignorant opinion that guns makes you less safe than we would have millions of deaths and accidents due to the 340 million plus of firearms in the U.S......again, we have more firearms than people in our country.
Here's the thing, when certain people are being targeted like small children, teens, blacks, Christians, army personal, etc. that is essentially domestic terrorism. Now what to do about these random, hard to stop massacres that all involve guns?
Do we just accept this as a part of life now?
What about the unintended consequences of more average joe's having guns? Obviously more guns means more fatalities from guns, accidental or on purpose. I'm curious about the more day-to-day unintended consequences: is there going to be a spike in road rage fatalities involving guns? I just wonder what it would actually look like if a lot of gun supporters had their way.
Here's the thing, when certain people are being targeted like small children, teens, blacks, Christians, army personal, etc. that is essentially domestic terrorism. Now what to do about these random, hard to stop massacres that all involve guns?
Do we just accept this as a part of life now?
What about the unintended consequences of more average joe's having guns? Obviously more guns means more fatalities from guns, accidental or on purpose. I'm curious about the more day-to-day unintended consequences: is there going to be a spike in road rage fatalities involving guns? I just wonder what it would actually look like if a lot of gun supporters had their way.
how are "blacks" being targeted? because of the S.C incident? is there a pattern that blacks are being targeted by guns because of their skin color?
We already have laws for criminals and the death penalty.
Tell me how are you going to confiscate 340 million guns in the streets and homes? change the 2ND Amendment?.....do you want to put in place the "Stop and Frisk" program from New York City nationwide, a program that liberals and minorities dislike?
Liberals say we can't deport 11 million ILLEGALS in our country, then explain how are liberals going to confiscate 340 million firearms?.....deporting 11 million ILLEGALS is more attainable than confiscating 340 million firearms and building more prisons.
we deal with that less than 1% of our society that break laws with smart policing and families being involved and don't punish the 99% of responsible gun owners and violate the 2nd amendment.
Does the 340 million gun number count those in the hands of military and the military stockpiles? If it does, that number seems low.
NO. Civilian firearms.
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