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Landmark deal here further cements President Obama's legacy as the greatest President we've ever had. CHANGE. Face it Pubs, you have failed to discredit this guy.
Wow, I never thought I would ever agree with Nexus on anything. But I would phrase it as, "Landmark deal moves President Obama closer to edging out of last place for 'worst president since Nixon.'"
The president surprised me on this one. I think it is a great deal. But it is about the only thing he's done that amounts to anything.
Wow, I never thought I would ever agree with Nexus on anything. But I would phrase it as, "Landmark deal moves President Obama closer to edging out of last place for 'worst president since Nixon.'"
The president surprised me on this one. I think it is a great deal. But it is about the only thing he's done that amounts to anything.
Wow, I never thought I would ever agree with Nexus on anything. But I would phrase it as, "Landmark deal moves President Obama closer to edging out of last place for 'worst president since Nixon.'"
The president surprised me on this one. I think it is a great deal. But it is about the only thing he's done that amounts to anything.
US drug makers got 8 years of protection. We can buy only their high priced drugs for 8 more years while foreign drug makers have to wait to sell their cheaper drugs here in the US.
So you want the Capitalists to have the upper hand in the movement of goods, services and capital in the global market economy but the working class should not have any power to move about freely from one nations market to another?
I am opposed to either scenario just so you know.
And there is nothing free nor has there been anything free about the global markets where patent protections hold supreme and stealing millions of peoples lands to go force them to work in the cities.
In a free market, there world be no patents. If someone can duplicate it and make it cheaper than you, then you just lost. You would cry foul because of the money spent to develop the product. The TPP enforces patent protections.
Imagine if skilled workers that paid thousands to get educated said noone else can do my job because it will lower my earning potential. You would not like that would you.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
nafta (actually freetrade) was started by carter...then slightly halted under Reagan, but his vp bush1(a globalist liberal) did push it...then pushed and negotiated by bush1 as potus... then PASSED INTO LAW by the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS, then signed by Clinton...with Clinton pushing it hard, he even BRIBED the republicans to get it passed
most real republicans, and true conservatives and also moderate democrats understand: globalism is the forefront of liberalism and socialism.....globalism is NOT free market..... the term freetrade is an oxymoron...as no 'free' trade can ever happen until ALL aspects are equal...such as wages
do you REALLY THINK you can have free trade with a country like mexico, if you can pay a guy $20 a week there, yet you have to pay some guy $20/hr here????....do you really think freetrade can be accomplished if a 200k sf warehouse costs 20k annually in mexico...or 20k monthly in Kentucky
I'm not saying we should go to a completely free market with no patents and such. I do think drug patents could be reduced though.
Actually, if all was equal, there would be no trade as there would be no advantage to overcome the transportation barrier.
Here's the thing, I understand inequality and jobs, especially manufacturing jobs, area an issue. I don't believe trade protectionism is the best way to solve the issue. There are other things like taxing investors more or a min wage or the multitude of things that would make it easier to hire someone (free healthcare, more lax liability issues)...
Heck, if you wanted to, just tax gas more. That would serve as a price mechanism to lower the amount of traded products, but would allow the market to sort out which goods are wanted most instead of a god awful tariff regime.
As the NZ poster said, it looks beneficial for them. The thing to realize is there is more than just Americans. It sounds kind of sociopathic that Americans are the only ones deserving of a good wage and employment and we can care less about the others who would benefit.
I thinks its bad. Imports should be taxed heavily to incentivize US companies to not outsource the work. More companies we have in America the stronger it becomes and the less unemployment we have. If you have a strong economy where the unemployment rate is very low, paying a few dollars more for something really isn't a big deal in the scheme of things. Keep American jobs and companies in America.
US drug makers got 8 years of protection. We can buy only their high priced drugs for 8 more years while foreign drug makers have to wait to sell their cheaper drugs here in the US.
And you think that is great ?
Guess how long you actually have to wait in the US for cheaper generics? (Hint: a lot longer than 8 years)
The 8 year protection is really about increasing the amount of time that foreign countries have to protect patented pharmaceuticals.
Landmark deal here further cements President Obama's legacy as the greatest President we've ever had. CHANGE. Face it Pubs, you have failed to discredit this guy.
Guess how long you actually have to wait in the US for cheaper generics? (Hint: a lot longer than 8 years)
The 8 year protection is really about increasing the amount of time that foreign countries have to protect patented pharmaceuticals.
I'm confused by this. All reports in Aus indicated that US wanted 8 years, but we wouldn't budge on five years, and that was the deal.
From more reading on TPP including ISDS..... not a fan.
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Face it Pubs, you have failed to discredit this guy.
