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Old 10-06-2015, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Well let's see...

We had a budget surplus during the Clinton Administration. But Republicans couldn't stand that!
How can the budget be balanced but the debt increased? Keep lying to yourself if it helps you sleep at night.

 
Old 10-06-2015, 04:37 AM
 
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Democrats are completely irresponsible. Case closed.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 05:09 AM
 
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Wow, it's been almost 7 years under Obama and liberals are still pulling the "blame Bush" card? It just never ends.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You know, I used to chuckle at conspiracy theorists who said Obama is trying to destroy America (financially and morally, among other ways) but no longer do I believe it is a conspiracy; America has almost been destroyed by his (not yet over) fiasco...
Write to your Congressmen. The Congress controls the spending, not the president. It does not seem like you knew that.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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And counting....

Debt under Obama in this (once, no longer great) country has gone from $9,000,000,000,000.00 to $18,000,000,000,000.00 and soon to be $20,000,000,000,000.00.

I'd like for ONE PERSON in this thread - liberal or conservative - that can tell me that is in any way acceptable?

You know, I used to chuckle at conspiracy theorists who said Obama is trying to destroy America (financially and morally, among other ways) but no longer do I believe it is a conspiracy; America has almost been destroyed by his (not yet over) fiasco...
Those numbers are meaningless when pointing the finger of blame. All they say is how much we are in debt.

Have you calculated the effect of tax income reductions that came from the enormous windfalls the rich enjoyed under tax cutting efforts like the Norquist Tax Pledge?

Have you researched the bills that came before Congress and determined if Congressional spending can be faulted?

Have you considered the cost of the US being in debt?

Have you calculated the cost of Americans choosing to buy cheap Chinese products over products made in America?

Have you added up the cost of unofficially being continually at war for over 20 years and who approved those actions?

Have you researched the effect the vanishing middle class has had on tax income for the US? What about the effect all the jobs outsourced to other countries has had? Or the effect corporate welfare has had?

There's a lot of reasons we are in debt and there's no way one man can be blamed for it all. The people most at blame are the ones we repeatedly vote into office who, time and again, do whatever will benefit them and their major "contributors" and ignore the damage it does to this country or its people.

We have to learn to be more responsible voters. Until we do, we should blame ourselves for the actions of our elected officials and for not doing all we can to keep this country strong.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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$20 trillion ... no big deal. Maybe the libs can open a couple of super meth labs, get Walt's formula, and make a deal with the Mexican cartels. We'd have that $20 trillion back in no time ...
 
Old 10-06-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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Write to your Congressmen. The Congress controls the spending, not the president. It does not seem like you knew that.
So, we have an Obama supporter who supports shutting down the government when Obama demands debt spending.

Great!
 
Old 10-06-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Congress controls the purse strings.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Write to your Congressmen. The Congress controls the spending, not the president. It does not seem like you knew that.
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So, we have an Obama supporter who supports shutting down the government when Obama demands debt spending.
The O-cult blames congress for the debt... so when they're with O.
The O-cult blames congress as obstructionists when they are against O.
For them, nothing is ever O's fault. Ever.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So, we have an Obama supporter who supports shutting down the government when Obama demands debt spending.

Great!
Obama did not get my vote. I am simply explaining the basics of how this country works, since so many don't have a clue.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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Why would we need to justify debt beening accumulated by a president when only 1 out of 43 different men who have held that office left with less debt than when they started ?

And why would we have to justify it when any sane person could add and subtract tax revenue and see that the recession is the reason for the deficit growing ????
Who was this and how was it done?
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