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Apparently you are not aware that many serial killers target prostitutes.
Apparently you are not aware this is almost a non-issue in areas where prostitution is legal.
Killers do this only in areas where prostitution is illegal, because when sex workers are forced into the "underground" market the crime is easier to get away with. It also helps them vilify their victim -- they often believe they are ridding society of "criminal trash" when they kill.
Another question. If these guys are willing to break the law and murder people, why aren't they willing to break the law and find a prostitute?
Most of the time they take the moral high road until the frustration is so bottled up and at an exploding point. Their behavior is very different from recurring criminality. A lot of mass murderers have spotless criminal records up until their day of total melt down.
Most of the time they take the moral high road until the frustration is so bottled up and at an exploding point. Their behavior is very different from recurring criminality. A lot of mass murderers have spotless criminal records up until their day of total melt down.
I'm just saying, it's pretty easy to get away with finding a prostitute. Doesn't take much effort to ensure you won't get caught. So they aren't willing to take this chance, but they have no problems gunning down dozens.
I seriously doubt that your suggestion (legalize prostitution) would have much effect on this particular problem. I think the lack of 'success' with the opposite sex is only a symptom of much deeper issue these people have. In the Oregon shooter's case, it's more like an excuse for his inability to take handle his own problems and take responsibility to do something about it. Besides, having sex is only a part of having a meaningful relationship, so having access to a prostitute probably wouldn't have satisfied this guy for very long, and only postponed the inevitable.
I agree that some of the issues go deeper, and that sex is not the only issue for some.
But take George Sodini for example. By his own admission, his source of frustration was not having sex with a woman for two decades.
Who knows why he did not allow himself to just hire a prostitute, maybe he was afraid of arrest and career damage, or maybe religious reasons, who knows.
But at the end of it all he had several hundred thousands of dollars in the bank, and nobody to give it away to except the college he went to (who did not accept it). He could have afforded to have sex with a different porn star every night with a nest egg like that.
He was a creepy guy and just watching his youtube videos reveals why he had problems getting a date. Legalizing prostitution would not necessarily fix that problem, but if he had spent some time getting confidence boost from prostitutes, strippers, etc he might find his skills with the opposite sex taking a turn for the better.
At least the sex portion of the problem would be solved, and probably a few ladies still living.
I'm just saying, it's pretty easy to get away with finding a prostitute. Doesn't take much effort to ensure you won't get caught. So they aren't willing to take this chance, but they have no problems gunning down dozens.
Obviously it takes a level of mental instability to gun down anyone. I'm not sure that trying to apply sanitized logic to the mind of a killer is a worthwhile cause. I'm only suggesting that in a few cases, female rejection was one motivator for killings, and that with more options available some of these guys probably wouldn't have killed.
As I said, who knows why they didn't think the risk of a misdemeanor charge would be less of a problem than mass murder. We only know what was inside an ill mind by what they say in their manifestos, videos, etc. I'm only trying to address the ones that cite female rejection as the reason, not every killer out there.
i think it should be legalized, licensed and regulated regardless if it helps prevent shootings or not. Regulation would make it safer for both workers and clients, and the increased taxes would go a long way in increasing state revenues. We can never stop it anyway. i feel the same way about the war on drugs.
To OP though...IMO it is already as easy as picking up the yellow pages to get one now, illegal or not, and thousands of guys already do this daily. Even legitimate local magazines have ads in the back for escort services, so it's not like you have to drive to the inner city and go prowling around.
I don't think btw that it would help. This is not from sexual desire, it's from guys who have generally struggled with all facets of life and felt helpless their entire lives, wanting to feel powerful, and wanting in particular to feel power over those they feel wronged them, i.e. the "Chads and Stacies". I also think there is a sense of entitlement to women and sex and friends that was not as prevalent in the past (I think porn addiction in many of these guys is partially to blame too).
i think it should be legalized, licensed and regulated regardless if it helps prevent shootings or not. Regulation would make it safer for both workers and clients, and the increased taxes would go a long way in increasing state revenues. We can never stop it anyway. i feel the same way about the war on drugs.
To OP though...IMO it is already as easy as picking up the yellow pages to get one now, illegal or not, and thousands of guys already do this daily. Even legitimate local magazines have ads in the back for escort services, so it's not like you have to drive to the inner city and go prowling around.
Oh I'm not doubting that prostitution is available. You don't even truly have to risk legal issues these days, "sugarbabying" has gotten very popular with all the online and smartphone options for hookups, so that it's not uncommon for the typical college girl from a good family to have dabbled in this and had a couple of 50+ year old "covert boyfriends" on the side to help them with college expenses. The statistical portion of the female college population that already admits having done this at least once is staggering (and as I said for the most part there is no law against having a sugar daddy).
But the killers I described all have one thing in common -- they keep trying and trying to do things the way society tells them they should. That cycle of trying and failing is what ultimately leads to them just saying "screw it, nothing to lose now" and committing murder-suicide.
If society made them feel more comfortable about possible stress outlets, some lives could be saved.
The premise that sex is the solution is very limited. I'll freely admit I don't follow the motives of such killers but I submit that sex is just one part of their issues.
Other issues may be any and all of the following:
Birth disorder. Some genetic or environmental factor that affects the person. An example would be autism.
Educational. Low IQ, poor education, school dropout.
Home life. Abusive parents or other caregivers.
Economic. Living poor, low paying job or unemployed.
Substance abuse. Drugs and alcohol.
Mental disorder. Depression, schizophrenia, bipolar.
Wrap any and all of these together and you likely have a person who struggles socially. The social disorder compounds itself - struggle around people and people won't want to be around you, which makes you even more awkward.
But I think we have to put a hefty blame on the patriarchal and misogynistic culture in the US. Women are objects. Men with women have higher status than a man alone. Take a woman on a date and she owes you something.
Is this all encompassing? No. But it's far more than just getting sex.
Wrap any and all of these together and you likely have a person who struggles socially. The social disorder compounds itself - struggle around people and people won't want to be around you, which makes you even more awkward.
Yes, and if the person had a socially acceptable / legal option of paying someone to be around them and provide intimacy, that snowball effect of awkwardness might not ever get so problematic that it results in total meltdown.
I'm not saying lack of sex is the only issue behind mass murders. I've cited a few murderers who used that as their primary excuse, so obviously it was a very big piece of the pie graph in their case. Certainly mental illness is complex and has many contributing factors, but then again legalization of prostitution also has many other benefits -- in the interest of staying on topic I'm trying not to let the thread become about all benefits of prostitution legalization, or about all causes of mass murder. Rather, it's best to stay focused on legalization of prostitution as it impacts mass murders who blame lack of sex as their primary motive.
Apparently you are not aware that many serial killers target prostitutes.
The OP is making reference to killers that target multiple victims of all kinds in a single incident, not serial killers who make multiple individual killings of a targeted group, like prostitutes (such as Green River Killer or the Yorkshire Ripper).
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