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If you can even consider a question from an unprejudiced point of view:
Bergdahl is now claiming a peaceful reason for deserting his post, to go and convince his superiors of the error of this was. The question is, did he really think that he alone could affect a change?
Why did he not attempt to convince at least some of platoon mates to go with him? More voices would certainly garner more attention than his alone. Why did he wait until the middle of the night to leave or not tell others of his "ethical" rational reasons for his actions?
IMO, he loan wolfed it because he is a coward and after being caught found that this benevolent group was anything but since he claims capture and torture. Surprise! We were fighting them for a reason.
Interesting testimony here:
""Nobody knows Bowe Bergdahl's story," said Terrence Russell, senior program manager for the Joint Personnel Recovery Center's Defense Department office at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, Wash., who interviewed Bergdahl with a team of three others for weeks about his years in captivity. "They don't know what the facts are."
Reports that Bergdahl was a traitor or a coward were "crazy" and "outrageous," Russell said.
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Russell said that he and the other debriefers, including an FBI agent, found Bergdahl to be truthful and helpful. "Everybody remarked on the quality of the information he was providing," he said. He was always trying to escape, Russell said, and managed it briefly twice, once eating grass to survive."
Testimony from others, according to the article, are also more positive than I expected.
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought The Article 32 procedure is the military equivalent of a civilian grand jury, except that the accused has quite a few more rights. Unlike a typical grand jury, the Article 32 is presented before a single hearing officer, not held in secret, allows defense counsel to be present and to cross-examine witnesses, and to call their own. All of this occurred at Bergdahl’s hearing.
Very obvious that Bergdahl gets what he deserves. His ass should be put in military prison because soldiers died because of him.
Or his testimony just go to show how well briefed by his captors he was to make his lies believable.
Another probability: those debriefing him chose to support his story so that the CIC would look less the fool for the deal he made.
Stick to the charges: did he leave his unit without permission in the middle of the night? Desertion, plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981
Correct me if I am wrong, I thought The Article 32 procedure is the military equivalent of a civilian grand jury, except that the accused has quite a few more rights. Unlike a typical grand jury, the Article 32 is presented before a single hearing officer, not held in secret, allows defense counsel to be present and to cross-examine witnesses, and to call their own. All of this occurred at Bergdahl’s hearing.
Very obvious that Bergdahl gets what he deserves. His ass should be put in military prison because soldiers died because of him.
From the link I posted above:
"The major general charged with an exhaustive investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance also testified Friday, saying that the soldier left his post believing that his absence would force authorities at nearby FOB Sharana to listen to his concern that his command was incompetent and was putting his unit in danger.
With that as his motive, Maj. Gen. Kenneth Dahl said that sending Bergdahl to jail, if he were court-martialed on desertion and misbehavior charges and convicted, would be wrong.
"I think it would be inappropriate," he testified.
...
Dahl also testified that, based on his investigation, "There were no soldiers killed in searching for Sgt. Bergdahl.""
"The major general charged with an exhaustive investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance also testified Friday, saying that the soldier left his post believing that his absence would force authorities at nearby FOB Sharana to listen to his concern that his command was incompetent and was putting his unit in danger.
With that as his motive, Maj. Gen. Kenneth Dahl said that sending Bergdahl to jail, if he were court-martialed on desertion and misbehavior charges and convicted, would be wrong.
"I think it would be inappropriate," he testified.
...
Dahl also testified that, based on his investigation, "There were no soldiers killed in searching for Sgt. Bergdahl.""
That is a very powerful statement from an impartial investigator that interviewed him for several weeks with the FBI.
It will probably take a few weeks to reach their final decision
"The major general charged with an exhaustive investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance also testified Friday, saying that the soldier left his post believing that his absence would force authorities at nearby FOB Sharana to listen to his concern that his command was incompetent and was putting his unit in danger.
With that as his motive, Maj. Gen. Kenneth Dahl said that sending Bergdahl to jail, if he were court-martialed on desertion and misbehavior charges and convicted, would be wrong.
"I think it would be inappropriate," he testified.
... Dahl also testified that, based on his investigation, "There were no soldiers killed in searching for Sgt. Bergdahl.""
"The major general charged with an exhaustive investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance also testified Friday, saying that the soldier left his post believing that his absence would force authorities at nearby FOB Sharana to listen to his concern that his command was incompetent and was putting his unit in danger.
With that as his motive, Maj. Gen. Kenneth Dahl said that sending Bergdahl to jail, if he were court-martialed on desertion and misbehavior charges and convicted, would be wrong.
"I think it would be inappropriate," he testified.
...
Dahl also testified that, based on his investigation, "There were no soldiers killed in searching for Sgt. Bergdahl.""
It's still ****ing desertion! Why do those on the Left CONSISTENTLY defend the most outrageous and disturbed criminals? Why?????????
There have been around 20,000 desertions since 2000, only around 2000 have been prosecuted and only a small fraction of them were sentenced to prison. Many received dishonarable discharges,losss of pay, reprimand, reduction in rank. There were a few that deserted overseas but it appears most deserted from the states and spent their time in relatively nice places compared to Bergdahl, 5 years with the Taliban is punishment enough.
Most of us know that we don't have what it takes to be in the military, Most of us know that we can only be keyboard warriors, not real warriors.
Mr. Bergdahl, however, put other people's lives in jeopardy. And 5 years with the Taliban is really what he asked for. He cannot blame anybody else but himself.
There have been around 20,000 desertions since 2000, only around 2000 have been prosecuted and only a small fraction of them were sentenced to prison. Many received dishonarable discharges,losss of pay, reprimand, reduction in rank. There were a few that deserted overseas but it appears most deserted from the states and spent their time in relatively nice places compared to Bergdahl, 5 years with the Taliban is punishment enough.
If he was aiding the enemy that's another story.
He did aid the enemy. He got 5 top officials released in exchange for him.
Then. of course, there are still the desertion in the face of the enemy charges. Hard for anyone not bought and paid for to ignore.
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