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Old 10-16-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I believe in God or a higher power and we are a part of a plan that is beyond our understanding. But no, I did not evolve from apes. Absolutely ridiculous notion.
This is true, since you ARE an ape.....
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Old 10-16-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Natives came from Asia 12,000 years ago. I thought this is basic knowledge.
That theory has been debunked.

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But the Native Americans still in North America don't have Asian features like those in Mexico. Neither do the ones in South America and yet they are supposed to have common ancestors from those who crossed Beringia.
Some tribal groups are affiliated with Orientals.

Other American tribal groups have origins in Europe or North Africa.

Consider that the oldest known skeleton in the Americans is a Negro woman dating back to 28,000 to 25,000 years ago. Her body was found in a cave in Brasil. Her origin is either West African or Melanesian.

The oldest known settlement in the Americas is in Chile and dates back 35,000 years ago.

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I don't think the differences between any of the groups is that great.
Obviously, you've never seen the skeletons.

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Further research on the Neanderthal genome has shown that there was a high degree of genetic incompatibility with the human genome. Male Neanderthal/human hybrids were partially or completely sterile. And for whatever reasons, Neanderthal mtDNA didn't survive to present day (that we know of).
But Neanderthals have the SP2 Speech Gene.

You're forced to accept the improbability that two --- or more --- distinct species/races underwent the exact same mutation or the two species/races interbred.

Such mutations would likely be recessive initially, which complicates the problem of the mutation spreading through a population.

That's part of the OP's issue that s/he didn't articulate very well.
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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That theory has been debunked.
Cite your source, please.
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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This is true, since you ARE an ape.....
Why are you so mean and nasty? Do you hate humans this much?
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Old 10-16-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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That theory has been debunked.



Some tribal groups are affiliated with Orientals.

Other American tribal groups have origins in Europe or North Africa.

Consider that the oldest known skeleton in the Americans is a Negro woman dating back to 28,000 to 25,000 years ago. Her body was found in a cave in Brasil. Her origin is either West African or Melanesian.

The oldest known settlement in the Americas is in Chile and dates back 35,000 years ago.



Obviously, you've never seen the skeletons.



But Neanderthals have the SP2 Speech Gene.

You're forced to accept the improbability that two --- or more --- distinct species/races underwent the exact same mutation or the two species/races interbred.

Such mutations would likely be recessive initially, which complicates the problem of the mutation spreading through a population.

That's part of the OP's issue that s/he didn't articulate very well.
The cave woman showed affinities with Melanesians, not Africans.

North African DNA in Native American fossil? I never heard that one. I did read the study of aDNA that showed Slavic and Asian affinities though.
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Old 10-16-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Cite your source, please.
For the most part, Native Americans are a bottleneck population of slavs/Asians. However, recent findings are causing some to consider a separate migration route through the Pacific Coast.

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Old 10-16-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Why are you so mean and nasty? Do you hate humans this much?
How is that mean? It's not my problem that you cannot accept that fact....There are five species of great apes, gorillas, bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans and humans.....

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Old 10-16-2015, 09:40 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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LOL. Is this really still a debate?
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Old 10-17-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey
Don't forget that Africans are still more closely related to non Africans than Denisovans/Neanderthals are.

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Why do you feel the need to continually make this point? I never suggested otherwise.
He sees the implications of all this, and it rightfully makes him nervous because they are huge. There is divergence between Africans and non-Africans, not as much as there was between Homo sapiens and the extinct human species but still significant. Few people have really wrapped their head around it. He has, and he doesn't want to see it exaggerated.
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Old 10-17-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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These two dogs have the same ancestor: THE WOLF


I don't think these two can mate naturally anymore.
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