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Old 10-16-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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All examples of how Bush was not a conservative, but that does not stop the democrats from citing Bush as proof conservative policies don't work.
I just love revisionist history!

All of a sudden the most conservative president in a century wasn't conservative. Oh, you say that Reagan was the most conservative? The president that said he believed in small government and low taxes but skyrocketing budget deficits, tripled the debt, grew the government by 25% and added multiple tax?

Bush was anti-gay, anti-abortion, eroded the wall between church and state, slashed taxes, slashed regulations, etc. That's conservatism folks.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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Our debt has gone from 11.9 trillion to 17.8 trillion in 5 years (2009-2014)

Where did that 6 trillion in debt come from if not Obama ?


https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/...ebt_histo5.htm
And with a fifty year high in the US poverty rate, and 47 million people forced to avail themselves of Food Stamps, and $5,000 drop in median family income, who the hell benefitted from all those trillions? It sure as hell was not the poor or middle class.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Any debt caused by Republicans

The most enlightened people in this country know that it was Republicans who created that debt during the Bush years, and Republicans who helped it to continue growing with Congressional Republican obstruction.

If Republicans weren't involved, we would have no debt...and don't you forget it either.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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I just love revisionist history!

All of a sudden the most conservative president in a century wasn't conservative. Oh, you say that Reagan was the most conservative? The president that said he believed in small government and low taxes but skyrocketing budget deficits, tripled the debt, grew the government by 25% and added multiple tax?

Bush was anti-gay, anti-abortion, eroded the wall between church and state, slashed taxes, slashed regulations, etc. That's conservatism folks.
Regan has the democrat congress fighting him every step of the way, blocking him from doing even more good for the country. Bush had both houses of congress in the hands of the Republicans, and he still acted like a big government, liberal, spending like a drunken sailor. Bush was no freaking conservative, unless by that you mean a social conservative, or religious conservative.
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Old 10-16-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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The most enlightened people in this country know that it was Republicans who created that debt during the Bush years, and Republicans who helped it to continue growing with Congressional Republican obstruction.

If Republicans weren't involved, we would have no debt...and don't you forget it either.
It was the liberal Republicans who still hold the reins of power who spent $4.6 trillion under Obama. The ones conservatives call RINOs, they call themselves republicans, get elected, and then govern like big government democrats.

Democrats should love Boehner and McConnel, they are no different than the democrats when it comes to expanding the size and scope of government and spending taxpayer money on big government solutions.
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Oh what utter nonsense. record revenues? Sure! EVERY single year. Thats called inflation, and a growing country. The number that matters is "As a % of GDP". Last year was 17.5%. This year is estimated to hit 17.7%. Big whoop. Out of the last 50 years it has been higher for....46% of the time. Soooo its about average. The highest rate was 20% in the year 2000. The lowest? in 2010-14.6%

Your complaint is both inaccurate, and deceptive.
" Thats called inflation, and a growing country."

The news just came out that there will be NO Cost of Living increase.

If we had inflation, costs would be going up and a COL would issued.
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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Wow, Jim Webb nailed it.
Obama said the exact same thing 7 years ago..

Never happened
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Old 10-17-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Oh what utter nonsense. record revenues? Sure! EVERY single year. Thats called inflation, and a growing country. The number that matters is "As a % of GDP". Last year was 17.5%. This year is estimated to hit 17.7%. Big whoop. Out of the last 50 years it has been higher for....46% of the time. Soooo its about average. The highest rate was 20% in the year 2000. The lowest? in 2010-14.6%

Your complaint is both inaccurate, and deceptive.
So you agree revenues are about the same, regardless of the tax rate.
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