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No, I'm making the claim that when the location of individuals who are known enemies is known that targeting them by drone is a far better choice than invading/occupying the country where they're located in order to get at them?
Are you making the claim that manned aircraft don't "kill indiscriminately"?
This obsession people have with drones as if they're not under human control and act autonomously and kill more indiscriminately than manned aircraft is silly.
The argument is that we shouldn't be indiscriminately killing people that have done nothing to us. Even the ones the government claims that have are only protecting their country. Remember, this is their country, not ours. We have no business being there.
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The argument is that we shouldn't be indiscriminately killing people that have done nothing to us. Even the ones the government claims that have are only protecting their country. Remember, this is their country, not ours. We have no business being there.
What country was bin Laden protecting?
I agree that we've gone into far too many places we shouldn't have, I'm only saying that in cases like bin Laden and others who are KNOWN to have acted against the US that targeted drone attacks when their location is known is a far better solution than then wholesale invasion/occupation of nations that have done nothing to us.
He is dead. Has been for years but yes, he was protecting his country in the same way we would. If another country was getting involved in our countries politics we would also retaliate. I don't really expect you to see that.
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I agree that we've gone into far too many places we shouldn't have
So there really is nothing more to discuss, but I don't expect you will see that.
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He is dead. Has been for years but yes, he was protecting his country in the same way we would. If another country was getting involved in our countries politics we would also retaliate. I don't really expect you to see that.
He was protecting his country?
WHEN?
HOW?
Just when was Saudi Arabia ever attacked by the US?
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So there really is nothing more to discuss, but I don't expect you will see that.
IF our government is going to continue meddling where it doesn't belong, and the current crop of candidates indicates that it will, there are some ways of doing it that are better than others. I guess you don't want to see that.
IF our government is going to continue meddling where it doesn't belong, and the current crop of candidates indicates that it will, there are some ways of doing it that are better than others. I guess you don't want to see that.
No, I do not want to see that. It's why I might have to vote for Sanders despite my reservations. An argument that we should do wrong in the very best way we can is a horrible argument.
Obama is the most blood thirsty Nobel prize winner in history.
You folks cry either way, we don't do anything in the Middle East y'all get a hard on for Putin. We try and do something, y'all get a hard on for Putin. Either way conservatives love ex kgb guys.
You folks cry either way, we don't do anything in the Middle East y'all get a hard on for Putin. We try and do something, y'all get a hard on for Putin. Either way conservatives love ex kgb guys.
Is this how you ease your conscience? It wouldn't work for me.
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