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Israel wasn't "given" to the Israelis, they won it by winning when the surrounding Arabs decided they'd rather go on an aggressive war of annihilation than agree to split the area and lost. The American administration at the time wasn't pro-Israel -- heck, a mere decade later we were backing the Egyptians over the Israelis in the Suez crisis. That came later amid the cold war when the Arabs decided to buddy up to the Soviets. Which like attacking what would become Israel in '48 turned out to not be the smartest move.
Israel wasn't "given" to the Israelis, they won it by winning when the surrounding Arabs decided they'd rather go on an aggressive war of annihilation than agree to split the area and lost. The American administration at the time wasn't pro-Israel -- heck, a mere decade later we were backing the Egyptians over the Israelis in the Suez crisis. That came later amid the cold war when the Arabs decided to buddy up to the Soviets. Which like attacking what would become Israel in '48 turned out to not be the smartest move.
Israel def took down the Arab countries. Their kind can't fight worth a hoot IMHO.
After WW2 the allies give the jews israel cuz they needed their own country.
But the land wasn't already theirs, right?
And that caused all the American hate by countries in that region.
So that's why we have to keep fighting wars there and deal with terrorism.
What if the US had given the Jews a space to live but other than prime real estate of Israel?
Like what if they gave them colorado or something less volatile and controversial?
Why don't you go further back in time and explain why all the land to the East of the TransJordan River which was part of the Palestine Mandate given to ONE family known as the Hashemites. The Hashemites had no ties to that part of the Middle East and were actually from Saudi Arabia. Why were all the Jews evicted from lands in that region?
No one "gave" the land to the Jews / Israelis.
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For those who prefer their infotainment, watching movies...
“Exodus” (1960) is a dramatized reminder of the importance of “bearing arms.” The British were vigilant in disarming the Israelis, while turning a blind eye to the arming of the Muslims. Everyone assumed that the rag-tag minority would be wiped out in 1948. But they prevailed, and still exist, despite being outnumbered 50:1 by their unfriendly neighbors. Even just a “few weapons” in the hands of a determined people can spell the difference between annihilation and survival.
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After WW2 the allies give the jews israel cuz they needed their own country.
But the land wasn't already theirs, right?
And that caused all the American hate by countries in that region.
So that's why we have to keep fighting wars there and deal with terrorism.
What if the US had given the Jews a space to live but other than prime real estate of Israel?
Like what if they gave them colorado or something less volatile and controversial?
Those barbarians have been fighting for centuries---it's naive to think they wouldn't be trying to kill us anyways if Israel didn't exist. They hate anyone who isn't Muslim. The Iraq War has nothing to do with Israel at all. So your solution of cowering to terrorists and undertaking and expensive project to remove millions of people and relocate them makes no sense.
There is evidence---not just biblical, but archaeological--that Israel was a Jewish kingdom, with its capital as Jerusalem, 2000 years before Mohammed was even born. There were no Arabs there---Arabs come from Saudi Arabia. Jews come from Judea & Samaria AKA the West Bank and the rest of modern-day Israel (plus, the ancient kingdom expanded to southern Lebanon and Syria as well as Jordan). The Romans invaded and conquered Israel and threw out many Jews (though not all; there were plenty of Jews already in Mandatory Palestine before Holocaust survivors arrived, as their ancestors never left). After their empire fell, the Islamic Mamluks and Ottomans conquered the region, and Muslim Arabs poured in from then. And following their defeat in WW1, the Brits took control of the region. There was never a sovereign Islamic Arab country called "Palestine". It was just a region, a territory, and the meaning of the word is "Land of the Philistines". The Romans named it this to humiliate the Jews, as the Philistines (a sea-faring, non-Semitic people thought to be from Greece) were their enemies for many many years before their demise.
At any rate, Israel was re-established in '48. There was to be a partition, and the Jews accepted but the Arabs didn't. They fought 3 wars to destroy the Jewish people, but each time their butts were handed to them. The West Bank and Gaza were under Jordanian and Egyptian control, respectively, until Israel took that land in '67. To the winners go the spoils.
A better, more feasible solution would be to deport Gazans to Egypt (where their ancestors are from) and West Bank Arabs to Jordan (where their ancestors are from). That is the only way for peace, where Israel has defensible borders in its homeland while the "Palestinians" will be in the Muslim societies they so desire.
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