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Old 10-18-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Please educate yourself. The two are vastly different systems in that The People share all the profits, make all the decisions, own all the utilities, etc. The government and the capitalist have no say and no power over The People.

It's hard for people in our profit and greed oriented society to envision a system that doesn't involve profit and greed.
What are you smoking? On what planet have you've seen socialism where the people share all the profits, make all the decisions, own all the utilities, etc.?

Or maybe you overdosed on coffee ...

 
Old 10-18-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Political independent here, I'm going into this election with an open mind. I just watched Carson and Sanders on This Week George Stephanopoulos. Did anyone catch the show? I was impressed with Carson's well thought out answers about foreign policy and healthcare to Stephanopoulos' tough questions. He has a very holistic view of the issues. I tried to listed to what Sanders had to say, but was too distracted by the candidate's arm waving and mannerisms to take in much. What little I did seemed vague. I wonder if he is someone who will be taken seriously by other world leaders were he to be elected.
I'm also with the open mind, rather than straight party voting. I also like Carson, but I'm concerned that he wouldn't be able to make tough decisions based on a doctor's "first do no harm" philosophy. Can Carson defend us should the enemy strike our heart? Can he convince our enemies that he'll strike them back with twice the power? I don't think so, but I could be wrong about him and I'm eager to hear other opinions.


DON9...socialism has never been tried on our planet. It's been mixed with communism, and called "socialism". Even Jim Jone's bout with jungle socialism was not, and wasn't even close. He controlled everything. That's not socialism.
I really like some of Sanders' thinking (such as 2nd amendment), but like you, I'm concerned about his appearance and his tendency to speak and act a fool.

America needs a drastic change for the current capitalism that's crushing the little guy. Anyone who works 40 hours a week, no matter the job, should be able to pay for rent/mortgage, food, clothing, medical and all the basic needs in this life.

The democrat debate bored me silly. It put me to sleep. I had been looking forward to it, but I couldn't stay awake long enough. I thought the republican debate was electrifying even though Carly is the only candidate I like.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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What are you smoking? On what planet have you've seen socialism where the people share all the profits, make all the decisions, own all the utilities, etc.?

Or maybe you overdosed on coffee ...

That's what socialism is. Socialism has never been tried on our planet. It's been mixed with communism, and called socialism, just to scare the people into submission. Real socialism scares the rich capitalists, who will do anything in their power to steer you in the other direction. Socialism to a capitalist is like the legalizing of drugs to a drug dealer. It would be their worst nightmare.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Please educate yourself. The two are vastly different systems in that The People share all the profits, make all the decisions, own all the utilities, etc. The government and the capitalist have no say and no power over The People.

It's hard for people in our profit and greed oriented society to envision a system that doesn't involve profit and greed.
Ahhh, today's college/university brain-wash program.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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Trump has publically admitted that he takes donations from average citizens only (those who send him $10 to 50 personal checks, etc). He refuses money from big corporations because he knows they all want and demand something in return. I actually like what Trump is doing. Unfortunately I think he is unqualified to run our country in a dignified manner.


LORRYSDA... please don't just throw things out there without backing them up. Explain how you believe socialism will lead to communism and thus destroy America. You're letting your fear and emotions rule you.
I don't do "fear" and "emotion" rule! I address issues from the USA Constitution's solid foundation. Either follow it or screw up the country. If you don't know the history of socialism and communism, go back and research. The best way to actually learn is to do your own research.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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I don't do "fear" and "emotion" rule! I address issues from the USA Constitution's solid foundation. Either follow it or screw up the country. If you don't know the history of socialism and communism, go back and research. The best way to actually learn is to do your own research.

So sad. It's the old adage ..."You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I don't trust want-to-be kings or queens (people that want to run on the backs of others in their royal family). I also don't trust politicians or lawyers and especially don't trust any queen that is a politician and lawyer. Guess who isn't getting my vote!
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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So sad. It's the old adage ..."You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
Your talking to one who has bred, raised and trained the Arabian horse since 1959, very successfully. Dumb answer on your part. The Arabian horse has opened the doors to the world for me. I have participated in sitting at the table to solve problems between representatives from up to 50 country's around the world whose laws in areas conflict and have to be brought into a workable compromise, for one thing. It is amazing what one learns about life, cultures, societies and how differences between countries impact the rest of the world! Your statements lead me to believe you are involved in American academia...if not, then you must follow those teachings. I can definitely state that our academia teachings are far off base, most especially in the area of "Political Science!" IMHO, that class should be banned from all education...period!
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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As a socialist/communist Bernie is absolutely not qualified to be in any American leadership position. I shake my head that New Hampshire would have ever elected such a person. Surely the voters of that State are just not paying attention...it's hard to believe the majority of them would be anti-American Constitution.
How would you feel about Vermont electing him?

You know, the people that actually did?
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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How would you feel about Vermont electing him?

You know, the people that actually did?
Sorry for them for not understanding and/or acknowledging America as the greatest country the world has ever experienced under the USA Constitution!
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