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Old 10-19-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Bah! I call BS on that, it's global warming that is the real threat.
Climate change hits women and minorities hardest. It's just another aspect of the all-encompassing white male menace.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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ISIS is the fault of radical Islam, plain and simple. Our government is too worried about being PC to destroy them, and the Muslim countries of the region expect us to clean up their messes every time.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I would say yes, or would never reached the level it has, if the US had listened and not ignored when told how (for one thing) Camp Bucca was an incubator for jihadists.

This is a very interesting and informative documentary. Part 2 will be shown a week from now.

Enemy of Enemies: The Rise of ISIL - Al Jazeera English
Of course it could have been avoided. WE (the US) is to blame for their creation, just like Al Queda, Taliban, Mujahideen... among others who are products of the CIA meddling in other countries.

We witnessed the collapse of the USSR because of invading and occupying Afghanistan. It was their version of Viet Nam. Does anyone think our leaders did the exact same thing because it was prudent? We invaded in an attempt to control the vast natural wealth locked in their ground, and nothing more. Terrorism was the excuse, and now it has become a monster that's out of control... no surprise.

Resources worth reading:
Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/...nus091401.html

An Enemy We Created

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ISIS is the fault of radical Islam, plain and simple. Our government is too worried about being PC to destroy them, and the Muslim countries of the region expect us to clean up their messes every time.
It's the perfect irony. Previous administrations (GHWB, Clinton, and GWB) created the monsters, and the current one runs from them.
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Bush is the butcher of the middle east - not Saddam. If Bush had the sense to stay out of Iraq, none of this, none, would have happened.
Oh please stop!

Blaming Bush for EVERYTHING is now almost a decade past. Time to put on big boy pants and grow up.

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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What's it to us whether it exists or not? It's not our problem unless we make it our problem.

ISIS isn't the first terrorist group that we've created...and it surely won't be the last. Creating thugs is our specialty.
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Old 10-19-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I think it could have been nipped in the bud.
When they first started gathering strength,
they were pretty much all grouped in one place.
Now they have spread their tentacles throughout the "Caliphate."
We allowed them to advance across vast expanses
of open desert. Now we have to fight them in cities.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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I think it could have been nipped in the bud.
When they first started gathering strength,
they were pretty much all grouped in one place.
Now they have spread their tentacles throughout the "Caliphate."
We allowed them to advance across vast expanses
of open desert. Now we have to fight them in cities.
We do? What cities? Seattle?
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:12 PM
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Bush is the butcher of the middle east - not Saddam. If Bush had the sense to stay out of Iraq, none of this, none, would have happened.
Bingo.

This is the natural result of actively trying to destabilize an entire region that was barely holding itself together to begin with. As any rational, sane, informed person could have foreseen, it immediately descended into chaos and the extremists took over.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Haven't you heard? ISIS, al Qaeda and the Taliban are no big deal anyway. The DOJ says it's white racists that Americans really need to worry about.
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Bah! I call BS on that, it's global warming that is the real threat.
Next it will be that the global warming is causing more white racists to be created.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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that would be inaccurate...

especially since ISIS was formed in 1998/9...prior to bush
What do you suppose kept them outnumbered and contained?
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