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Old 10-20-2015, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I believe the left has made a radical shift, hence the right having to move further right to counteract it. They're out of control.
The rightwing is out of control, I agree, and so do a majority of Americans, it's why conservatives won't be trusted with the White House for another 8 years, at the earliest.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:52 PM
 
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I believe the left has made a radical shift, hence the right having to move further right to counteract it. They're out of control. They're more than willing to destroy western society in order to uphold their unrealistic and suicidal ideals.

I find most conservatives to be pretty moderate, they need to move further right. Not to be alarmist, but I believe if the left keeps pushing, then you'll really see extreme right wing groups popping up.
The left has made a radical shift? You are aware that most past Republicans would be too far left for the modern GOP right? And that Hillary resembles past Republicans more then past Democrats.

Know who tried to pass a guaranteed income in the past? A republican. Sorry but The right and left have both gone further right then historically has been the case.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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Politics in the U.S. is bat-**** crazy - but it's pretty much just an extension of the entertainment industry. Especially the Republican Party. They would not get away with that nonsense anywhere else in the world. A complete laughing stock. Dems aren't great either but let's be real. They're a little more sane.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Politics in the U.S. is bat-**** crazy - but it's pretty much just an extension of the entertainment industry. Especially the Republican Party. They would not get away with that nonsense anywhere else in the world. A complete laughing stock. Dems aren't great either but let's be real. They're a little more sane.
Says someone who wants Kanye West as president...
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Surprise come from behind election wins. Those are becoming more common. And yet nobody thinks elections aren't rigged. At least its working both ways and both parties are gaining and losing power as certain chosen candidates win or lose. Still, parties being manipulated and weakened by the puppet masters doesn't help the people whose votes are now meaningless.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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If you really think Obama is a "liberal socialist," you really are just talking out of the right wing echo chamber.
Why, because he does not fit, exactly, some text book definition of a socialist?

He's taken over our nation's health care, he's taken over student loans, he's taken over the banks, and is on his way to taking over everything with his carbon and energy control regulations.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Surprise come from behind election wins. Those are becoming more common. And yet nobody thinks elections aren't rigged. At least its working both ways and both parties are gaining and losing power as certain chosen candidates win or lose. Still, parties being manipulated and weakened by the puppet masters doesn't help the people whose votes are now meaningless.
And what the hell changes when one party gains control over the other? What changed once the repubs took over Congress? Obama has only signed four vetoes in his entire presidency, that's an historical record. Everything coming across his desk is a bill or piece of legislation he agrees with, and Boehner and McConnell added more debt in five years than any congress that came before them.

So tell me, what do turnover elections like 2008, 2010 and 2012 change? Government power grows, the debt grows. The politicians keep running campaigns on exactly the same platform talking points each and every time, we elect them, and nothing changes but the letter after their names.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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I'll never understand liberals' desire for the U.S. to emulate inferior nations.
There are no "inferior Nations". They are all "Equal" or better in the mind of many Progressives. We are the worst and must change at all cost is the Mantra of the far Left.

None of us can live with the Far right either, but the Left has been the one forcing new policy on us. As in Obama Care, they didn't even know what was in it, they wanted to initiate it without knowing the consequences.

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Old 10-21-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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As long as we stick with the two party system, we'll be forced to continue to vote in the interests of wealth, privilege, and political cronyism. It's as simple as that. The only way to break the cycle will be to get a viable third party into the system, and as it sits the system is rigged against that possibility.
I think that about says it.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Not only rigged against a third party, but the two we have collude so much they are effectively a single party.
Yup
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