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Old 10-24-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
I do not care what you choose to believe.
Interesting issue here, that belief is a choice.

There are some (many) parts of the world where it is not.

 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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You're confused, thank the science fiction writers who cause death by abasing God's best plant.


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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
I hate to say it but.......I told you so.

One in three users are showing signs of dependence or abuse

And then they celebrate by saying ""The prevalence of marijuana use disorder among marijuana users decreased significantly from 2001-2013," from 35.6 percent of users to 30.6."

Lets get this straight: 10 years ago you had 1000 users, 350 of then had marijuana related disorders, and today you have 2000 users and 600 people with disorders, and that's somehow a good thing? Number of people with disorders nearly doubled.


U.S. Study: Marijuana use doubled in last 10 years - CNN.com

Marijuana study: Number of Americans toking up doubles in 10 years

A heck of a lot more Americans were toking up in 2012-13 than 10 years before -- and not for medical reasons, either -- according to a new study.
The percentage of American adults who had used marijuana within the last year was 9.5%, the study found. That compared to 4.1% in 2001-02.


With the increase in use has come an increase in the total number of what the study called "marijuana use disorders."
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by cruxan View Post
prohibitionist keep telling more lies, keep spewing the reefer madness. at least the majority of the populous has woken up to the BS.. in 2 years at least ten states will have legal pot..
I have not seen reefer madness, but I doubt it predicted marijuana use would go up 100% in US in 10 years.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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The Institute of Medicine said 9% of cannabis users are addicted. They had to put the number that high to get taxpayer funding, which requires OK by pill companies. It is your right to choose to die from poison pills, but we shouldn't be forced when a better choice is available. Euro expert said 2% are addicted, & wgy should % addicted be more important than % killed?

Pills kill 265,000+ a year, alcohol 88,000 a year, tobacco 200,000-300,000+, food 500,000+, & 0 for cannabis. Why do you seemingly favor unnecessary deaths?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
I hate to say it but.......I told you so.


One in three users are showing signs of dependence or abuse

And then they celebrate by saying ""The prevalence of marijuana use disorder among marijuana users decreased significantly from 2001-2013," from 35.6 percent of users to 30.6."

Lets get this straight: 10 years ago you had 1000 users, 350 of then had marijuana related disorders, and today you have 2000 users and 600 people with disorders, and that's somehow a good thing? Number of people with disorders nearly doubled.


U.S. Study: Marijuana use doubled in last 10 years - CNN.com

Marijuana study: Number of Americans toking up doubles in 10 years

A heck of a lot more Americans were toking up in 2012-13 than 10 years before -- and not for medical reasons, either -- according to a new study.
The percentage of American adults who had used marijuana within the last year was 9.5%, the study found. That compared to 4.1% in 2001-02.


With the increase in use has come an increase in the total number of what the study called "marijuana use disorders."
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GJJG2012 View Post
The Institute of Medicine said 9% of cannabis users are addicted. They had to put the number that high to get taxpayer funding, which requires OK by pill companies. It is your right to choose to die from poison pills, but we shouldn't be forced when a better choice is available. Euro expert said 2% are addicted, & wgy should % addicted be more important than % killed?

Pills kill 265,000+ a year, alcohol 88,000 a year, tobacco 200,000-300,000+, food 500,000+, & 0 for cannabis. Why do you seemingly favor unnecessary deaths?
Repped you for the excellent post, but you might as well be talking to a wall.

Prohibitionists always ignore this data.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GJJG2012 View Post
The Institute of Medicine said 9% of cannabis users are addicted. They had to put the number that high to get taxpayer funding, which requires OK by pill companies. It is your right to choose to die from poison pills, but we shouldn't be forced when a better choice is available. Euro expert said 2% are addicted, & wgy should % addicted be more important than % killed?

Pills kill 265,000+ a year, alcohol 88,000 a year, tobacco 200,000-300,000+, food 500,000+, & 0 for cannabis. Why do you seemingly favor unnecessary deaths?
Cannabis kills more then 0. Thats just a fact. Not through the direct consumption, but rather through accidents, and people doing things they would not have otherwise done. BUT....it also saves a LOT more people for its medical properties alone.

And the war on pot certainly killed more people then pot did.

As for addiction-it really all depends on how you define it. Caffeine has massive addition levels and no one seems concerned. Heck Rock star sodas will kill more folks then pot will this year. Where the outrage? yeah.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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There were likely over 1,000 users 10,000 years ago. Those who call it a disorder almost never ask users why they use it. Maybe all use is medical as why would anyone use it if they just naturally felt fine all of the time?

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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post

Lets get this straight: 10 years ago you had 1000 users, 350 of then had marijuana related disorders, and today you have 2000 users and 600 people with disorders, and that's somehow a good thing? Number of people with disorders nearly doubled.


U.S. Study: Marijuana use doubled in last 10 years - CNN.com

Marijuana study: Number of Americans toking up doubles in 10 years

A heck of a lot more Americans were toking up in 2012-13 than 10 years before -- and not for medical reasons, either -- according to a new study.
The percentage of American adults who had used marijuana within the last year was 9.5%, the study found. That compared to 4.1% in 2001-02.


With the increase in use has come an increase in the total number of what the study called "marijuana use disorders."
 
Old 10-24-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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A Federal study released February 2015 said it did not increase fatal crashes & CO officials said fatal crashes are near an all time low since legalization. Cannabis does not lower inhibitions, either. You're giving it 2 characteristics of alcohol, but effects are much different.

Alcohol is a toxin & cannabis is a non-toxin. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, shuts down parts of brain that teach right from wrong & can make people temporarily blind & cause blackouts with no memory & passing out, which would likely be fatal on the road. Cannabis has a plateau effect, one can get to a level of effect that using more doesn't change. I've read 20K pages, o/200 sources, few others can claim this.



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Originally Posted by greywar View Post
Cannabis kills more then 0. Thats just a fact. Not through the direct consumption, but rather through accidents, and people doing things they would not have otherwise done. BUT....it also saves a LOT more people for its medical properties alone.

And the war on pot certainly killed more people then pot did.

As for addiction-it really all depends on how you define it. Caffeine has massive addition levels and no one seems concerned. Heck Rock star sodas will kill more folks then pot will this year. Where the outrage? yeah.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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Cannabis kills 0 & can help 250 medical conditions proven by studies, & limited anecdotal evidence suggests it may help 550-600 conditions. You have the right to die from pills or needless surgeries, but should not be able to limit everyone's choices like that. Nobody dies from cannabis & we wish our legal drugs were that safe, but pill companies buy the laws & kill millions.


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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
A gunshot to the head is also more harmful. Is that a good argument to legalize drugs?
 
Old 10-24-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Where I am, the liquor stores are almost stacked on top of each other! Almost all parks allow beer & wine.
The number of microbreweries is skyrocketing. I only drink too much beer, because my state won't let me relax with cannabis, which I may need to avoid dying soon. Do you care?


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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Has there been a 100% increase in alcohol abuse in past 10 years?

No, there has not.
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