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Old 10-24-2015, 06:40 PM
 
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Getting to keep your own money is not a handout.
The Democrats sure don't mind giving away billions of our tax dollars to illegal aliens either who don't even have a right to be in this country. Hypocrites! If they weren't here there would be jobs for the poor instead of handouts.

 
Old 10-24-2015, 06:49 PM
 
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We have always been Socialist and a little Capitalist, just more Socialist today: We have Welfare, Social Security, free Heath care to anyone who shows up at an emergency room. We even have social programs for Illegal Immigrants! How are we not Socialist?
America is socialist for the poor, capitalist for the wealthy. The difference here is you can choose capitalism instead of socialism and make something of yourself -- many have pulled themselves up out of poverty and into capitalist wealth
Through hard work and education.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 07:08 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Getting to keep your own money is not a handout.
Its supply side economics you don't get to keep your money (large corporations and the rich get to keep theirs.)

The Bush tax cuts gave the middle 20% of Americans 10% of the tax cuts, and gave the richest 1% of Americans 52% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

Then the Bush tax cuts lost revenues caused cuts in federal funding to states, and then states had budget shortfalls and had to raise state taxes.
Impact of Bush Plan on State Revenues: CTJ Analysis

The Bush tax cuts added trillions of dollars to our national debt, raised state taxes, lowered the value of the US dollar (because of our high /deficits/debt), ex.ex. Was it worth it?


And Mitt Romney's tax cuts would have given you nothing.
Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress


And its the same in 2016,

Jeb Bush's tax cuts give the bottom 20% of Americans 2.9% of the tax cuts, and give the richest 1% of Americans 52.9% of the tax cuts. And Jeb Bush's tax cut plan will add $3.4 trillion dollars to our national debt.
More Than Half Of Jeb Bush's Proposed Tax Cuts Would Benefit The Top 1 Percent: Report
Jeb Bush

Ted Cruz's tax plan will lower taxes for the rich and raise taxes for everyone else.
How Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz Would Radically Increase Taxes on Everyone But the Rich | Tax Justice Blog

Donald Trumps tax cut plan will add $10.8 trillion dollars to our national debt. While Trumps tax cuts give the bottom 20% of Americans 1% of his tax cuts, and the richest 1% of Americans 34% of his tax cuts.
Donald Trump's tax cut plan: It would cost at least $10.8 trillion, give lots of money to rich people.

ex.ex.

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Old 10-24-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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Its supply side economics you don't get to keep your money (large corporations and the rich get to keep theirs.)

The Bush tax cuts gave the middle 20% of Americans 10% of the tax cuts, and gave the richest 1% of Americans 52% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

Then the Bush tax cuts lost revenues caused cuts in federal funding to states, and then states had budget shortfalls and had to raise state taxes.
Impact of Bush Plan on State Revenues: CTJ Analysis

The Bush tax cuts added trillions of dollars to our national debt, raised state taxes, lowered the value of the US dollar (because of our high /deficits/debt), ex.ex. Was it worth it?


And Mitt Romney's tax cuts would have given you nothing.
Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress


And its the same in 2016,

Jeb Bush's tax cuts give the bottom 20% of Americans 2.9% of the tax cuts, and give the richest 1% of Americans 52.9% of the tax cuts. And Jeb Bush's tax cut plan will add $3.4 trillion dollars to our national debt.
More Than Half Of Jeb Bush's Proposed Tax Cuts Would Benefit The Top 1 Percent: Report
Jeb Bush

Ted Cruz's tax plan will lower taxes for the rich and raise taxes for everyone else.
How Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz Would Radically Increase Taxes on Everyone But the Rich | Tax Justice Blog

Donald Trumps tax cut plan will add $10.8 trillion dollars to our national debt. While Trumps tax cuts give the bottom 20% of Americans 1% of his tax cuts, and the richest 1% of Americans 34% of his tax cuts.
Donald Trump's tax cut plan: It would cost at least $10.8 trillion, give lots of money to rich people.

ex.ex.
Yup.
And all those tax cuts I bet were made under the guise of "creating jobs."
If the rich have more money, they are (supposedly) creating more jobs for Americans.
As the practice is increasingly showing us, they "create jobs" alright, just not in the US, but wherever they see a bigger return on their investments.
Using the words of some long-forgotten Mr. Thomas Dunning, ( whom Karl Marx quoted in his "Das Kapital,"), it goes like this;

“Capital is said by a Quarterly Reviewer to fly turbulence and strife, and to be timid, which is very true; but this is very incompletely stating the question. Capital eschews no profit, or very small profit, just as Nature was formerly said to abhor a vacuum. With adequate profit, capital is very bold. A certain 10 per cent. will ensure its employment anywhere; 20 per cent. certain will produce eagerness; 50 per cent., positive audacity; 100 per cent. will make it ready to trample on all human laws; 300 per cent., and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is here stated.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Dunning

Oldies but goodies)))

And still around.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 08:01 PM
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hotkarl - Good choices as those people are more supportive of free market capitalism than any of the monopolist warmongering Republicans that own our Military contracting system.
I like mongered warrings.
 
Old 10-24-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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The Democrats sure don't mind giving away billions of our tax dollars to illegal aliens either who don't even have a right to be in this country. Hypocrites! If they weren't here there would be jobs for the poor instead of handouts.
The only group that shows any negative effect from competition for jobs with illegal aliens is black high school dropouts. Unless you are one of those, you don't have much to worry about.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 02:42 AM
 
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I am talking about US leading the world and not following some countries that are really worth joking about.
Call me when we lead the world in economic equality, education, healthcare, infant mortality, science and engineering and common god damned sense.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 04:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I think that power hungry senator was simply a SOB
And a drunk SOB at that! But we agree on something.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 05:36 AM
 
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We can always shoot them, relax.

Second amendment is still in place
 
Old 10-25-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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Why does everything always have to be 'one thing' or 'the other' in America? People act like it's either freedom or complete communism. It's such a fear culture that can't see the grey area in between.

American can be successful like UK, Canada and Australia – doesn't have to be like the old Soviet Russia days LOL!
You don't understand it - of course it's freedom or nothing)))
Look at someone like Sanders - it's practically Stalin reincarnated, don't you see it?
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