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Forget it. The Dems decided that a Obamacare is the answer to all your health insurance needs.
So suck it up and live with it.
The Dems passed what they could at the time, and it's better than what was in place before. But I doubt you will find a single Democrat who wouldn't be more than happy to end the ACA and go to single payer. The big obstacle that is still standing in the way of that is, as always, the GOP.
But hey, good news! The Republicans voted yesterday to repeal the ACA again! Number 61 this time. Though they still have absolutely nothing to replace it with. You would think after five years they would come up with some alternative plan, but nope. I guess they're too busy with their nine pretend Benghazi investigations to do any real work like writing a healthcare bill.
The Dems passed what they could at the time, and it's better than what was in place before. But I doubt you will find a single Democrat who wouldn't be more than happy to end the ACA and go to single payer. The big obstacle that is still standing in the way of that is, as always, the GOP.
I have not seen the Democrats even make a proposal to fully fund Medicare. I would say that is because the obstacle is the taxpaying voter.
Don't blame it on Obama, he wanted a single payer system which republicans were against.
Democrats had the majority in both houses and yet still couldn't reach a consensus amongst their own caucuses. Democrats used budget reconcilliation to force it Obamacare through both houses. Don't blame it on Republicans, they were kept in the doghouse from day one.
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Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT
We pay comparable taxes... and no free healthcare thank you.
Actually in countries with UHC everyone has to pay taxes to the federal government. In such countries there exists no EITC, 47%, etc. If our 47% were forced to pay taxes to fund a universal health care system, the Capitol would be burned to the ground.
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Originally Posted by odanny
It's the best we could do, thanks to Republicans. It's better than what preceded it, no thanks to Republicans.
So suck it up and be damn grateful for Obamacare.
You're welcome.
Again Republicans were allowed zero input from day one. Democrats couldn't pass UHC because it didn't have enough support in either of their caucuses so they forced through the travesty of Obamacare using budget reconcilliation. Don't blame it on Republicans when they didn't even have the numbers to stop it.
Again Republicans were allowed zero input from day one. Democrats couldn't pass UHC because it didn't have enough support in either of their caucuses so they forced through the travesty of Obamacare using budget reconcilliation. Don't blame it on Republicans when they didn't even have the numbers to stop it.
It's amazing how the Republicans continue to claim they had zero input when 160 Republican amendments were added to the bill at their request.
"July 15, 2009--The Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee passes The Affordable Health Choices Act. The bipartisan bill includes more than 160 Republican amendments accepted during the month-long mark-up, one of the longest in congressional history."
Gee--how did all of those Republican amendments get there in during a bipartisan process that lasted longer than any other in congressional history if Republicans were "allowed zero input from day one"????
It's amazing how the Republicans continue to claim they had zero input when 160 Republican amendments were added to the bill at their request.
"July 15, 2009--The Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee passes The Affordable Health Choices Act. The bipartisan bill includes more than 160 Republican amendments accepted during the month-long mark-up, one of the longest in congressional history."
Gee--how did all of those Republican amendments get there in during a bipartisan process that lasted longer than any other in congressional history if Republicans were "allowed zero input from day one"????
That's a great question, you are deconstructing their talking points. Well done.
This would level the playing field with the private healthcare companies that are gouging Americans. Most Western countries provide free healthcare, and if we can't get that, at least we need healthcare that is truly affordable (not the Obama version). I have paid into Medicare since I was 16, and don't mind paying a reasonable fee for getting it. The Medicare system is already built, just let us access it. The gov would still make money on it.
Your money has been spent and they are hoping you die before you collect, SS currently has a "surplus" but it's IOU's used to prop up other spending. You're the one paying for the benefits of those collecting now.
Where do you propose getting the funding for this?
"SS currently has a "surplus"
"Social Security Deficits: Permanent and Growing Social Security began running cash-flow deficits in 2010, paying out $51 billion more in benefits than the program received in payroll taxes that year. Without reforms, Social Security's cash-flow deficits will rise rapidly and will quadruple in less than 20 years, when its combined trust fund would be exhausted.
INFLATION-ADJUSTED DOLLARS (2014)
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