Will Germany become a muslim country? (party, working, women, news)

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

Explain to me how you can be a Muslim but not be religious.

Islam is a religion.

So if you're a Muslim, then it follows that you are religious.

If you're not religious, then it follows that you are not a Muslim.

If you're an atheist, then it follows that you are not a Muslim.

That's like saying all Mexicans are catholic. Read the article at the link, then take this curiosity out for a spin on the Information Super Highway.

I watched the latest release, "Inside Assad's Syria" Oct 27, 2015 Frontline, PBS; saw Muslims in bikinis on the beach.

People should not lump everyone in together under one umbrella, there are too many differences that will show where that just doesn't work.

EDIT: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-...b_3261226.html

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

That's like saying all Mexicans are catholic. Read the article at the link, then take this curiosity out for a spin on the Information Super Highway.

I watched the latest release, "Inside Assad's Syria" Oct 27, 2015 Frontline, PBS; saw Muslims in bikinis on the beach.

People should not lump everyone in together under one umbrella, there are too many differences that will show where that just doesn't work.

EDIT: Why I Call Myself an 'Atheist Muslim'*|*Ali A. Rizvi

You didn't answer my question.

You make a false analogy when you equate my statement that "All Muslims are religious" to the statement "All Mexicans are Catholic."

Being Mexican doesn't necessarily mean that you are a Catholic, just as being Catholic doesn't necessarily mean that you are a Mexican.

But being Muslim necessarily means that you are religious, because Islam is a religion.

As for the article "Why I call myself an atheist Muslim," there are all kinds of irrational claims people make.

That is one of them.

[Icy Tea]

Germany has their imbecilic puppet leader out to bring them down and we have ours. All we can do is empathize.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

That's like saying all Mexicans are catholic. Read the article at the link, then take this curiosity out for a spin on the Information Super Highway.

I watched the latest release, "Inside Assad's Syria" Oct 27, 2015 Frontline, PBS; saw Muslims in bikinis on the beach.

People should not lump everyone in together under one umbrella, there are too many differences that will show where that just doesn't work.

EDIT: Why I Call Myself an 'Atheist Muslim'*|*Ali A. Rizvi

Originally Posted by dechatelet

You didn't answer my question.

You make a false analogy when you equate my statement that "All Muslims are religious" to the statement "All Mexicans are Catholic."

Being Mexican doesn't necessarily mean that you are a Catholic, just as being Catholic doesn't necessarily mean that you are a Mexican.

But being Muslim necessarily means that you are religious, because Islam is a religion.

As for the article "Why I call myself an atheist Muslim," there are all kinds of irrational claims people make.

That is one of them.

That maybe that I picked the wrong analogy, try this one.

Atheist Jew is to Judaism, as Atheist Muslim, is to Islam.

There is a buffet of ideas, that is as numerous as there are people on this earth.

The choices you gave only account for 2 of an array of possibilities, humans can achieve and become.

[MJJersey]

Originally Posted by 11thHour

The hell was Merkel thinking by opening the flood gates? She has forever changed the cultural landscape of her own country for the worse. I can't believe the citizens are tolerating it.

What can they do? Most Americans (I have seen the poll number as high as 80 percent) do not want Obama to bring millions of "refugees" here either but he's going to do it and there is nothing the citizens can do about it.

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

That maybe that I picked the wrong analogy, try this one.

Atheist Jew is to Judaism, as Atheist Muslim, is to Islam.

There is a buffet of ideas, that is as numerous as there are people on this earth.

The choices you gave only account for 2 of an array of possibilities, humans can achieve and become.

I appreciate your "buffet of ideas" approach, but we need to reject claims that are unwarranted.

Judaism -- like Islam and Christianity -- is a religion. So if you're an atheist, you are not a Jew. You might be descended from observing Jews. You might call yourself a Jew. But you are not, in fact, a Jew. And people should start acknowledging that instead of trying to have their cake and eat it, too.

The whole "I'm a Muslim but I don't believe in God or anything else that Muslims believe in (especially things that sensible people reject, like oppressing women)" pose is a cop-out and a subterfuge.

It is just the sort of thing I would expect Muslims to say when they are small minority without power.

"Let's pretend to be harmless. Let's pretend NOT to believe what we actually do believe, so that the infidels accept us. Once we become powerful, then it will all change...."

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Govts are always so generous with other people's property

This small town has 23 empty office buildings. What's up with that? Sounds like a ghost town.

Who owns these buildings?

[middle-aged mom]

And then there's the neo Nazi employed as a car washer.........

[carolac]

LOL - let's see, how did Obama put it. . . oh yes. "They will be like seedlings, watered and nurtered." +1

Originally Posted by neko_mimi

The village must be so excited to receive all that "diversity". Just think of how "culturally enriched" they'll become.

I'm still waiting to find out how many immigrants are going to move into the white house with Obama.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

I appreciate your "buffet of ideas" approach, but we need to reject claims that are unwarranted.

Judaism -- like Islam and Christianity -- is a religion. So if you're an atheist, you are not a Jew. You might be descended from observing Jews. You might call yourself a Jew. But you are not, in fact, a Jew. And people should start acknowledging that instead of trying to have their cake and eat it, too.

The whole "I'm a Muslim but I don't believe in God or anything else that Muslims believe in (especially things that sensible people reject, like oppressing women)" pose is a cop-out and a subterfuge.

It is just the sort of thing I would expect Muslims to say when they are small minority without power.

"Let's pretend to be harmless. Let's pretend NOT to believe what we actually do believe, so that the infidels accept us. Once we become powerful, then it will all change...."

So once a Muslim, always an Islamist. Sorry I don't adhere to that, but then I'm an unorthodox Christian, so what do I know? I guess there's no such thing, because by your analogy there is only one idea, in a world where there are multiple faiths; multiple paths too and from the belief in God.

I didn't find God in a church and I didn't find Him in a book. I guess that makes me just as much an anomaly as a Muslim's rejection of the Islamic faith.