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Old 10-27-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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I don't consider them evil but they are highly, highly addictive. The makers of Oxycontin (FDA approved 1996) recently settled a lawsuit as they lied about how addictive the pill really is. They paid nearly 3/4 of a Billion dollars fine which is nothing compared to what they made selling it.

Tolerance builds and it becomes a dead end road, where users only use to subdue the physical withdraw effects.

Marijuana and other natural plants like kratom should be more widely available. These things can help with pain but don't have the nasty physical withdrawal symptoms, and don't only exist to enrich a few families in corporate America.

Family That Made a Fortune off National Oxycontin Epidemic Has Just Landed on Forbes' Richest List | Alternet

Morphine, codeine and heroin have been stigmatized but they do have their medical purpose and should be available for those that need it. Oxycontin perhaps was never needed in the first place, with morphine, etc.
I took the same dose of oxycodone for three years and had adequate pain relief. Of course I was not pain free but I don't think I could ever be. It did allow me to do basic chores and take care of myself without pain. Tell you the truth it was 10 times harder for me to quit smoking 12 years ago than it was to stop taking the oxycodone after taking it for six years straight. I think there is a big difference between people who take pain medication for chronic pain and those who use such medication to numb their mental anguish, hence the need to get high and forgot about their mental problems. Just like many people can drink socially and those who can not even have one drink.

 
Old 10-27-2015, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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My heart goes out to everyone who has to suffer in pain. I loved my grandpa dearly, and it is very difficult to see him struggling with throat cancer in the last several months, he was really not himself. People who have never been there, done that really shouldn't judge.

I agree, people who suffer from pain would rather committing suicide.. I think marijuana should be legalized

I've never used drug my entire life, but I think people should be the only one who control what been put in their body. If they want to "abuse" drugs, pain killer or anything else, they should have freedom to do so. No enough of shaming or personal attacks or dirty looks can fix other people's psychological or physical problems.

For those who suffer daily in pain, let them decide how they want to manage the pain or live their lives.
Sorry about your Grandpa and thank you for the reply.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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Interesting experience I had last winter: I was given a prescription of a narcotic pain reliever by my doctor. Went to clinic pharmacy to fill. Pharmacist said in a snide way that I should know about it since I just had a prescription for this drug a couple months ago. When I looked at her confused, she double checked the record and realized the prior prescription was 10 years and a couple months ago. She apologized which made me wonder what, exactly, she was apologizing for.

These days it gets harder and harder for people with legitimate problems to get help from doctors and others in the healthcare field. I have visited Pharmacist forums and they do not have many kind words for those who need these types of medications.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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These days it gets harder and harder for people with legitimate problems to get help from doctors and others in the healthcare field. I have visited Pharmacist forums and they do not have many kind words for those who need these types of medications.
Tell me about it!! It's a real shame. I was sent to PM and they couldn't do a thing one because of my age and that the DEA watches them like a hawk.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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Tell me about it!! It's a real shame. I was sent to PM and they couldn't do a thing one because of my age and that the DEA watches them like a hawk.
Yet the ones who want to get "high" will run out and get heroin with the greatest of easy. I was hurt at age of 26 and since I was young my pain was ignored and was told to get over it in the beginning. I went to a chiropractor and acupuncturist for the first ten years but I was on Worker's Comp at the time and cost was not a problem. I was able to go five days a week which did help a bit. After being denied treatments and watched by the WC carrier I settled my case and now I can not afford to go everyday. I wish you the best of luck, I know it's not easy.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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Yet the ones who want to get "high" will run out and get heroin with the greatest of easy. I was hurt at age of 26 and since I was young my pain was ignored and was told to get over it in the beginning. I went to a chiropractor and acupuncturist for the first ten years but I was on Worker's Comp at the time and cost was not a problem. I was able to go five days a week which did help a bit. After being denied treatments and watched by the WC carrier I settled my case and now I can not afford to go everyday. I wish you the best of luck, I know it's not easy.
Thanks I hope and pray that we are getting closer to having major drug reform in this country. I'm not one to smoke marijuana but for example as public support for the legalization of the drug increases we will continue to have more and more states easing their drug laws. The new Canadian Prime Minister is a strong support of marijuana legalization and Mexico's Supreme Court is taking up the issue as well. Eventually the United States will be flooded with even more drugs that are sold just over the border legally.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Absolutely not! No one in pain should be punished because some choose to misuse narcotics. I'm nineteen and I have been going to numerous chiropractors, sports health and general doctors to find help for my Chronic neck pain and still absolutely no resolve. I was prescribed hydrocodone and doctors are very scared at giving these types of drugs out especially to someone my age even if you are in pain because they are scared of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) taking always their license. I will run for office one day and I will push for major drug reform in this country not because I am someone who wants to do drugs recreationally but instead realize that so many have been ignored because doctors are scared of getting in trouble by doctors. The War On Drugs has to end and we need to instead initiate a War On Addiction.

I would like to offer a suggestion, and I speak from experience in this matter.
If you are having chronic neck pain, it is sure sign of cervical stenosis, which if untreated, could cause permanent paralysis.
Talk to a pain specialist at some pain clinic, and ask about getting an epidural in your neck.
It will ease the inflammation, and you should be pain free for perhaps years.
Kick the reliance on weed, and get some REAL treatment.
I have been pain free for about two years now, and I remember it was so bad, I couldn't function.
I will always have the stenosis, but I have no pain now associated with it.

Bob.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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How in the world can the general public give you dirty looks and disrespect you when they would have no idea you are on medication.

Most Pharmacists are too busy to care what medication any one customer takes so the stares, dirty looks and disrespect appears to be imaginary.

A Doctor who is a Professional will not treat their patients the way you describe when they know the patient is not abusing the medication and if they do then you are with the wrong Doctor.
I am sorry, but do you have any kind words to help the op who is obviously struggling? Maybe you need to show some compassion without judging or doubting. Op certainly did not come to the board asking for a lecture or a validation from you.

They say perception is reality, if op experienced dirty looks and have felt judged, that is his or her reality.

The problem is that there are many people out there who expect a miracle when they finally get a narcotic prescription for their pain, they expect that drug to work immediately and get rid of all their pain, so they can feel normal again. However, meds simply just don't work that way. When you first start taking it, you will more than likely get some relief, but you do have to keep using it for a few weeks until you get the full benefit of the drug and the worst of the side effects wear off.

Being in constant pain is certainly a scary feeling, and not getting enough support from the doctors or anybody just add the secondary wounds. You can certainly understand the frustration, can't you?

Chronic pain patients with real, legitimate medical problems do have to suffer because of the abusers and the measures that the DEA, docs, and pharmacies have had to take to try to prevent that. However, if you get a good doc this time, who is really educated about pain and managing it, it will not take very long to establish yourself as being fully cooperative and reliable, and they will eventually relax with you and be willing to work with you to get you a med that works..

Many people also just assume that if you take narcotics you are an addict, many people don't understand chronic pain and how anyone could need drugs that potent for long-term usage. So yes, people who rely on pain medications SOMETIME are wrongfully stigmatized.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I took the same dose of oxycodone for three years and had adequate pain relief. Of course I was not pain free but I don't think I could ever be. It did allow me to do basic chores and take care of myself without pain. Tell you the truth it was 10 times harder for me to quit smoking 12 years ago than it was to stop taking the oxycodone after taking it for six years straight. I think there is a big difference between people who take pain medication for chronic pain and those who use such medication to numb their mental anguish, hence the need to get high and forgot about their mental problems. Just like many people can drink socially and those who can not even have one drink.
Very true-I do think all options should be available to patients since not everyone is the same. It's not right when people can't get the proper care or medicine.

Even for adults that want to use recreationally, we should not be spending so much money and resources on preventing it. People should be educated on the effects and pros/cons but there should be no such thing as a victimless crime and going through the criminal system often makes the situation of an addict 10x worse.
 
Old 10-27-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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I would like to offer a suggestion, and I speak from experience in this matter.
If you are having chronic neck pain, it is sure sign of cervical stenosis, which if untreated, could cause permanent paralysis.
Talk to a pain specialist at some pain clinic, and ask about getting an epidural in your neck.
It will ease the inflammation, and you should be pain free for perhaps years.
Kick the reliance on weed, and get some REAL treatment.
I have been pain free for about two years now, and I remember it was so bad, I couldn't function.
I will always have the stenosis, but I have no pain now associated with it.

Bob.
I've had multiple X-Rays, MRI's and CT scans and all the doctors say is that it is scoliosis and arthritis. It feels like a crushing feeling in my neck and I'm not trying to sound like a wimp but a majority of the time I can hardly move. I've had a trigger point injection and I have been on multiple anti-inflammatory medication with absolutely no relief from the pain. Haha I've never smoked or done any illegal drug. Thanks for the information.
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