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Old 10-28-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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Actually the chronic disruptions should be enough to kick out the kids depriving the others of an education.

We need alternate schools to seperate the wheat from the chaffe, not the shore patrol or henry kissinger.
Funding cut to alternative school's and pretty much anything mental health. Push Murohy Bill.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Generally officers in schools, especially high schools is a positive.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Trust teachers can't maintain order in classrooms. Most of the kids are huge, violent, and unruly. They are loud and disrespectful. They use their cell phones in class, listen to music in class, start dancing in class, and sleep in class. Some of them have knives. Teacher's can't restrain students anymore without getting in trouble. Students don't respect most teachers anymore.
Then those teachers need to be fired and be replaced by teachers who are capable of maintaining order. And it needs to become easier to expel disruptive students. Also, teachers should be allowed to concealed carry in schools - THAT would do a lot to restore order.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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My personal point of view is that the schools should handle everything except drugs, guns, and violence in house via the deans/assistant principals and school security officers.

Where I live my school district has their own in-house security force most of whom are active or retired cops (usually NYPD) working a second job or a part time job in retirement. Aside from maybe some of the more 'troublesome' districts I don't even think we have 'school resource officers' up here. Back when I was in middle school we did have DARE but that was a good 15 years ago.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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I think the bigger question is: should there be government schools? Answer:No.
Private schools and private security? Yes.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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I really don't think this cop should have been pulled in to remove an entitled snot nose who was texting and refused to give her phone to the teacher. Her parents should have been called to remove her from class and she should have been expelled.

Then again, hindsight is always 20/20
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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I'm not against it. It's a local issue.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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My personal point of view is that the schools should handle everything except drugs, guns, and violence in house via the deans/assistant principals and school security officers.

Where I live my school district has their own in-house security force most of whom are active or retired cops (usually NYPD) working a second job or a part time job in retirement. Aside from maybe some of the more 'troublesome' districts I don't even think we have 'school resource officers' up here. Back when I was in middle school we did have DARE but that was a good 15 years ago.
LI schools are generally safe. Even Hempstead, Brentwood, William Floyd, etc. are nothing compared to some other areas of the country.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: The South
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Maybe. But the program of placing sworn officers (as opposed to sworn school system security personnel) began during the Clinton Administration.

Some agencies have used to program to increases head count, others as an extension of community policing. Sometimes both at the same time.

So, the program begins at the federal level so you'll have to start there since grant money is involved.

In actuality police officers are trained to deal with snot nosed individuals of any age.
Its the snot nosed individuals that are not trained to deal with police officers. She obviously flunked the "Yes Sir, No Sir, How high do you want me to jump?" class.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I really don't think this cop should have been pulled in to remove an entitled snot nose who was texting and refused to give her phone to the teacher. Her parents should have been called to remove her from class and she should have been expelled.

Then again, hindsight is always 20/20
So while after the school calls the parent and have to wait however long it takes for them to show up, if ever, what happens.

As I said, I/we don't really know what happened prior but if the student is disruptive and has refused to leave when asked what will she do the rest of the class?

I can damn near guarantee she wouldn't sit there quietly while class continued.
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