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Old 11-09-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Bob gets a $100 check
Ted, Alice, Sue, Jim, Fred and 95 others give the gov $1 each to help Bob because they know if they had walked in Bobs shoes they might have ended up like him
While the red state he lives in will not fund Medicaid and Bob will soon be addicted to pain pills and opioids. Nice job, Deniers of income inequality.
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Old 11-09-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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Do you see this in your own life, among friends and acquaintances, your children's lives?
Yes. Yes I do.

Bruce Springsteen, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, and probably the plumber down the street all make more money than me.

The inevitable follow up question is why the hell should I care?
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Old 11-09-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Bob gets a $100 check
Ted, Alice, Sue, Jim, Fred and 95 others give the gov $1 each to help Bob because they know if they had walked in Bobs shoes they might have ended up like him


Nice except it's like this:

Ted and Sue and Alice and Fred and 95 others get a $100 check. Bob pays 69% of his income in federal and state and property and excise and sales taxes. Uncle Sam borrows the shortfall from Bob's unborn grandkids. Ted and Alice are mad Bob has $101 dollars and they only have $100.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Bob gets a $100 check
Ted, Alice, Sue, Jim, Fred and 95 others give the gov $1 each to help Bob because they know if they had walked in Bobs shoes they might have ended up like him
Those 100 people didn't GIVE $1 to the government. The government took their money. It's immoral for the government to steal from Joe to give to Bob. But there is a better solution;

Ted, Alice, Sue, Jim, Fred and 95 others VOLUNTARILY give a charity $1 each to help Bob because they know if they had walked in Bobs shoes they might have ended up like him.

Bob gets a $100 check from charity.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Deniers of income inequality.
Who is that? I don't know anybody who denies that we have income inequality.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Income inequality increases under prosperity and decreases under a recession. A rising tide does lift all boats.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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If you work hard and are ambitious, do you not have the opportunity to live a comfortable life? .
lol. Now, do you really believe that spiel or are you just pulling our leg
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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There are enough charts and graphs and Wikipedia to explain the inequality in income. It is the highest since the 1920's
Do you see this in your own life, among friends and acquaintances, your children's lives?
I see it in the parelell universe that the super rich and the rest of us live. The number of super rich has grown as a percentage.
I see it in air travel. There were always first class but what we call coach is how most of us travelled in. It was comfortable and actually fun. Now I cannot get anything other than a middle seat if I want to fly to LA in Jet Blue. Of course I can PAY extra and get the aisle seat, pay to bypass security, pay to board first. So there is your class system.
This kind high class and low class exists in every aspect of life so the rich never have to deal with all the non- rich out there.
Most people need two incomes to have a decent life. Young people incur huge debts to finish college without which they cannot get a decent job.
Consequently the rich get tax breaks, corporations get laws favorable to them passed by buying pols, and the rest contend with poor roads, poor public transit, poor schools.
Do you belive this inequality is bad for democracy and our way of life? If so, What is the solution? Who, the Dems or GOP, would address it?
We will be inundated by 1st world woes as long as we have liberals who feel a need to cry about inequality.

We have an inequality of intelligence in this country; liberal policies further it along.
How many HS grads can read the front page of their city newspaper aloud with no problems?
Newspapers are written to accommodate a 6th grade education.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Income have always been unequal and always have been. What has really changed is the distribution of the opportunity to make a decent living if your are not a child of wealth or a genius. After WW2 most everybody could make a good living from the janitor in the local school to a wealth backed preppy with all the connections wealth provides. This is no longer the situation. Now even college degrees in the "useful" areas like engineering and science do not provide real opportunity for good pay unless you bag a job in the defense industry. A trade school education followed by a "good" job will not let single wage earner support a family. A plain high school education will let you work at a minimum wage dead end job in retail or a warehouse. That is not opportunity that is a future of perpetual near or actual poverty.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Income have always been unequal and always have been. What has really changed is the distribution of the opportunity to make a decent living if your are not a child of wealth or a genius. After WW2 most everybody could make a good living from the janitor in the local school to a wealth backed preppy with all the connections wealth provides. This is no longer the situation. Now even college degrees in the "useful" areas like engineering and science do not provide real opportunity for good pay unless you bag a job in the defense industry. A trade school education followed by a "good" job will not let single wage earner support a family. A plain high school education will let you work at a minimum wage dead end job in retail or a warehouse. That is not opportunity that is a future of perpetual near or actual poverty.

You've conveniently ignored the impact of women in the workplace and the impact of illegal workers as well as the impact of the global economy. After WW2, the US was the only game in town; we rebuilt the planet. Women stayed home and illegals were not welcome, leaving the job to young men. We are not remotely the same planet and expecting the same result today is silly.
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