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View Poll Results: Does guaranteeing insurance purchase against potential usage, no matter what, to an industry encoura
Yes, I think. If I keep guaranteeing the hospital corps.', big pharmacopeia's, providers', revenue streams, they may raise their billing rates. 3 100.00%
Nuh uh, not having it. The housing bubble burst showed me that enough refusal to pay rising costs didn't lower their values. 0 0%
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:20 PM
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Does guaranteeing insurance purchase against potential usage, no matter what, to an industry encourage bill inflation?

Try to think on that, and then cast your decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/ny...insurance.html

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Old 11-06-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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What's a leftist?
 
Old 11-06-2015, 08:35 PM
 
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Can you include a third option that says we don't want to play your silly game?
 
Old 11-06-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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Not a leftist but it doesn't seem you are getting many hits.

Depends on product, competition, etc.

I am sure you are getting at gov guaranteeing college (or housing).

Theoretically....if payment of a good / service is guaranteed, the provider of good / service could charge any price and get paid. But if their are many providers of good / service, guaranteed full payment will increase revenue / profitability, allowing company to charge less.

Take for instance small business loans - if there is a monopoly on providing loans, a company could charge 100% interest and have full repayment. But if there are many providers, default provisions are removed - there's no increase in interest charged due to creditworthiness, and companies can charge lower rates (anything above cost of funding+expenses) and remain profitable.
 
Old 11-06-2015, 09:56 PM
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Not a leftist but it doesn't seem you are getting many hits.

Depends on product, competition, etc.

I am sure you are getting at gov guaranteeing college (or housing).

Theoretically....if payment of a good / service is guaranteed, the provider of good / service could charge any price and get paid. But if their are many providers of good / service, guaranteed full payment will increase revenue / profitability, allowing company to charge less.

Take for instance small business loans - if there is a monopoly on providing loans, a company could charge 100% interest and have full repayment. But if there are many providers, default provisions are removed - there's no increase in interest charged due to creditworthiness, and companies can charge lower rates (anything above cost of funding+expenses) and remain profitable.
I seem to recall you writing a few pretty lefty things on these threads though.

Of course most progressives aren't going to admit to what's contained in the poll--but that part of the exercise is itself a useful result to make a point.

The one you're missing is that compulsory participation in a revenue guarantee to an end provider is not an incentive for the end provider to be mindful of thrift.
 
Old 11-06-2015, 10:03 PM
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Does guaranteeing insurance purchase against potential usage, no matter what, to an industry encourage bill inflation?

Try to think on that, and then cast your decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/ny...insurance.html
What does either have to do with your link ?
 
Old 11-06-2015, 10:08 PM
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What does either have to do with your link ?
The New York Times is laying the blame for an HMO that folded at the feet of Republicans who wouldn't guarantee the revenue stream it demanded.

More of that, please.
 
Old 11-06-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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I seem to recall you writing a few pretty lefty things on these threads though.

Of course most progressives aren't going to admit to what's contained in the poll--but that part of the exercise is itself a useful result to make a point.

The one you're missing is that compulsory participation in a revenue guarantee to an end provider is not an incentive for the end provider to be mindful of thrift.
If you are getting at federal gov't paying for college, I can't agree more. Awful, terrible idea as it will become a black box of bloated, wasted spending of an epic scale.
 
Old 11-06-2015, 10:18 PM
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If you are getting at federal gov't paying for college, I can't agree more. Awful, terrible idea as it will become a black box of bloated, wasted spending of an epic scale.
That's a paradigm example. Even public land-grant universities are being turned into resorts. Then wage, benefits inflation....

Then they turn on the spigot of what many of its consumers think is easy money to buy into it....

Of course the closest parallel is the students think the credentials are compulsory--and many of the hazed have gone on to make them that way for their successors.
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