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Old 11-11-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Charles Krauthammer weighs in:

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I think the headline is substantive debates tend to be less exciting. We got a substantive debate and the intermural arguments were on policy rather than personal stuff. So I thought in a way, it was a step up, but it was less exciting than a cage fight. The guy with the most at stake was Jeb Bush...

Krauthammer on Republican Debate: "Undisputed Winner Was FOX Business" | Video | RealClearPolitics

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Old 11-11-2015, 08:04 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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She always did well on debate but I'm not sure she is going to win the poll. I didn't like Kasick nor Jindall. They both like to think they are the only ones that did this and that. Give me a break.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't see how any republican can win. They are all too extreme or too crazy. I think the swing states with the independent voters will go towards Democrat if this is the batch of Republicans they have to choose from regardless of who eventually gets the nomination
Agreed.

What I saw in the debate was the same old rhetoric and tactic GWB used:

lower taxes (increased deficit),

fear mongering and I will protect you (expensive war),

cut spending (screw Americans and let our infrastructure rot!),

and create jobs (corporate welfare).

No thanks. I don't want another go-round with what GWB did to our country. Another go-round will be the demise of America.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I liked Ben and Marco before the debate and after the debate Ben Carson is no longer one of my favorites. He is too passive. But I liked Rand a Paul before the last 2 debates, so who knows.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Fiorina is the best interview that Ive seen. She seems to have the best answers, on any given topic.

I just hate the fact that her whole "I worked my way up from a secretary", is SO not true. It is her narrative, and its just not true.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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Where have you ever heard that? None have said that. But in my opinion, there should be no "minimum wage." The market should set wages. Lowering the minimum wage or getting rid of it altogether would create jobs for high school students after school, like we had when I was young. It was the "minimum wage" which caused those jobs to disappear.
When I was growing up, we had teens working all over the place, sweeping floors, cleaning windows, keeping the lawn and sidewalks of businesses clean, helping patrons to their seats in the theaters.

When you'd pull into a gas station and three to four high school kids would swarm the car, pump your gas, clean your windows, check the oil, tires, wipers, and do a sort of mini safety inspections.

They did it for very little in compensation, but they took pride in it because they were earning their own money, so they could buy a guitar, an old car, or blow money on their girlfriend.

They were also learning valuable life skills, which could later be applied to the adult work place. Some would even open a checking account and learn how to balance their finances.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:19 AM
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But lets face facts Ozzy & Harriet are dead and the beaver is doing drugs on the south side, your idyllic memories of the 50's is long gone. Kids today don't have a work ethic, a sense of accomplishment and their first word is always me. As others have posted many businesses would kill to get these teens to take the jobs and even more would be happy if they worked when there.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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And yet she won't go up in the polls....

I think if her record as a CEO was not such a disaster she would be polling better. Of course she wouldn't be polling like Carson or Trump. To do well on polls you need to make bigoted statements
Sadly, I think you might have something there.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Cruz is a great debater but the gold standard is what got American to the depression. That's what I've learned in either high school or college. Can grow the money supply because of the rigid gold standard.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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and many of us feel the same about people who can actually support Trump or God forbid, Sanders or even Clinton. What makes your supporting Sanders any better or more real than someone supporting Cruz? BTW, I am certainly not supporting Cruz but each candidate has support that others do not understand.
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Well the majority of the country do not support his ideas. Most of us would like to have some control over our lives and not have the government telling us exactly what we can do while giving everyone, everything free. Of course some of his ideas have academia support: take, take, take and don't give back. Isn't that the liberal or socialistic way?

And BTW where are you getting your information about his support both inside and outside academia? Inside yes, outside,, NO, not most, not even a majority! I am also a little perplexed when I see you say, you supported Webb and then Sanders. How can someone support Webb and then Sanders? They are as different as night and day.
Yeah I know it's a switch from Webb to Sanders lol. It's just what you have to roll with when your choices are limited. I don't agree with a lot of Sanders ideas like free college and thinking taxing wall st will fix everything, but I like him over clinton and over a republican. Basically his support comes from my quote, every other country is doing it, healthcare, college, wages... I know marijuana legalization has majority support publically, universal healthcare is widely supported (not sure if it is >50% though), and increasing taxes on capital gains has wide support too.
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well, at least you didn't post a thread simply calling him names, you actually placed some examples....

tax cuts may not be the answer, however, to tax the people more, is criminal and raping the people of this United States.
One of our problems is, that not only Washington, but also our local governments cannot do their jobs....they are unable to "NOT SPEND" and allocate our monies where it is supposed to go. They simply hand it out, to their special interest groups and they do not over see how it is spent. The country is so dishonest any longer, they don't care how they spend our money. This country is over run by lawlessness and entitlements, and when I say entitlements, I don't mean Welfare, I mean our people running this country in political office, cannot balance a check book, and are unable to wisely allocate our money.

I've seen gas taxes constantly over the past 50 years to go for infostructure, roads and bridges....however, nothing seems to get fixed. I've seen a road closed for an entire year, to fix a little bitty bridge....why? Because I worked construction and know what is involved. I saw, a community park being built, on a very small parcial of land...took them two years to complete it? Why? That was our tax money they were milking the job over?

Everyone is corrupt....Carley says, bigger government doesn't work, she is right, it doesn't....it's got to be not only cut but cleaned out....and they need to use the same benefits as they give us....in other words, if Obama Care is so special, they they need to use it, period.
Where we disagree is that I don't believe that government HAS to be corrupt. Other countries do not have such corrupt systems. I would be fine paying taxes if I knew they were spent efficiently and I was getting real goods and services back out of the deal. I think that corruption can be weeded out or reformed in the system, but in the event it is not, I go with your solution. I like either universal healthcare or Carly Fiorna healthcare. I do not like free healthcare if your old and a big money grab where you can be charged whatever they like (without prices being shown) and you darn well pay it.
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