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I don't get the people who don't want to see people get paid more? why?? what are you afraid of?? the Corporations do have enough cushion! You complain of welfare and food stamps! Make up your mind already!
Am I talking to people who are stuck in the past -when they made 4.34 hr and think that's all they should still get?
I don't get the people who don't want to see people get paid more? why?? what are you afraid of?? the Corporations do have enough cushion! You complain of welfare and food stamps! Make up your mind already!
Am I talking to people who are stuck in the past -when they made 4.34 hr and think that's all they should still get?
and there you have it folks.. the mentality of the liberals
everything is the evil corporations
but the problem is the actual factual truth
99% of americans who work...work for small businesses(small companies with less than 500 total employees)
89.8% work for small businesses (small companies with less than 20 people)
most small businesses are operating on profit ratios smaller than 10% (of which most is rolled back into the company)
raising the min wage is a killer for small business.....so it spawns a question...is that the liberals agenda, to kill small business and make the big corporations the monopoly???
time to check in and see what sort of responses I got to asking people why this time was different. Source for the minimum wage data used: Minimum wage since 1938 - CNNMoney
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Originally Posted by Costaexpress
Visit any retail store in the country and you find fewer and fewer employees. Now the few staff at Walmart have to walk all the way across a football field sized store to help customers. Go to a Barnes and noble and the store is minimally staffed.
A higher minimum wage will prompt businesses to reduce employment, raise prices, or find other ways to save on cost. In the long run, it makes very little improvement in actual terms. But it is good politics. To the economically illiterate and financially lazy. Who doesn't like free candies right? This is where this whole envy politics never moves forward much. It is a bitter politics that stays the way it is.
And? Nothing in what you are indicating indicates why now its a suddenly different dynamic then the past really. The higher minimum wages in the past did this too...and look the world didnt end. Why is today different? If your argument is "the machines are coming"...you are correct, they are. And they are coming no matter what the minimum wage is. It doesn't change the underlying reason why we should bump it.
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Originally Posted by PyroZach
I support raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour though why are we going so high to $15.00? It doesn't make sense and will kill the economy. We have the technology that is continuing to be utilized in the fast food industry where you do not need an employee to take the order when you can have an automatic system that will in the long run prove to be cheaper. Believe me raising the minimum wage to such a high level will prove to be a disaster.
Good news then, most people are not saying it should be $15 instantly. Come on now, folks DO in fact have a grasp that sudden shocks can damage a system. So if its $15 spread out over 10 years, is that ok? If not, explain why.
I will say that this reply wasn't nonsense. Its a reasonable concern, and why no one is saying to do it today all at once generally. And the concern about $10 vs $15 I respect as well.
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Originally Posted by Mason3000
Minimum wage is a tool invented to keep low skilled (read: minority) workers out of the work force. Introduced in BC to stop Chinese from taking White logging jobs. Later applied in Australia to keep minorities from taking White railroad jobs. Introduced in the US under Davis-Bacon Act to protect White construction workers from low paid Blacks. Introduced in Apartheid S Africa by the Boers to keep Blacks out of the factories. Etc etc etc.
Raise the minimum wage to $15 and see what happens. Better Better yet, raise it to $25. I'll still get hired. Low skilled (read: minority) workers won't. I will gladly order fast food from a self-service kiosk if it guarantees me personally $25 an hour minimum.
Only in your head is it about minorities, although if we assumed it was, your arguments from there on out are remarkably racist. Apparently you think your hatred of minorities is why we should keep it down. got it.
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Originally Posted by BobNJ1960
Other times we had modest increases, not massive. Not a large % of the present experience rate being paid.
Now if they wanted a 10% raise, the past experience would be relevant.
Again, we have had massive increases 1974-1981 saw it double from 1.60 to 3.85. So I would argue that past experience is very applicable, and I would have evidence on my side.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
uhm
the min wage increase of 07/09 was the straw that broke the usa's back creating the perfect storm recession
OMG this is awesome.....soooo the worldwide recession in 2009 was because we raised the minimum wage from....$5.15 to $7.25. (the wage that had been flat for 9 years despite inflation) Uh huh. Really? Where do you come up with these weird ideas? Do you hope that you can fit your narrative in with a shoe horn? The recession had nothing to do with the minimum wage, this is utter nonsense.
I have no problem with the minimum wage being raised every four years at the rate of inflation but for me anything else is simply nonsense, want to earn more than minimum wage then go out and find a way to earn better pay, take some personal responsibility.
And raising it to $15/hr wouldn't happen overnight, it would be over a series of years which means the percentage of increases would be much more doable for most businesses. And to answer your question to why not $10.10, it would be $10.10/hr for a year on its way to $15/hr as it increased by small percentages each year. Though I imagine states with a higher minimum wage now would probably reach $15/hr minimum wage faster than states that are still going off of the current Federal Minimum Wage.
The method of boiling a frog by placing it in tepid water and gradually increasing the heat works the same way. Incremental destruction is still destruction.
Mandated minimum wage should be eliminated. The government should not be involved in business arrangements they are not a party to.
A lot of the interviews done during this protest were of young single mothers.
They talked about how they needed welfare to augment their low wages.
And not a single mention of any father or child support.
One mother was 22 years old, 2 kids and she didn't finish HS.
She lives in Chicago and I'd wager that child support from the father(s) would eliminate her need for welfare.
The method of boiling a frog by placing it in tepid water and gradually increasing the heat works the same way. Incremental destruction is still destruction.
Mandated minimum wage should be eliminated. The government should not be involved in business arrangements they are not a party to.
Then you should be able to prove it by showing how unemployment has increased over the years do to minimum wage going up in the past. I'll wait.....
At no time in the past has min wage doubled. So it can't be "proven".
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