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Old 11-14-2015, 07:30 PM
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I want Big Business and Banking out of our Government all together.
They only know how to steal from the average American to pad their pockets
They're in there because they can count on the progressive left's Big Government to harvest money from the middle class to give it to cronies, including big health.

Big Business can't obtain money from folks at the muzzle of hyper-state. The progressive left's Big Government can.

 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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The $10 Tylenols and $20 BandAids are due to the fact that hospitals must service anyone who walks in the door, regardless of ability to pay. So my $250 broken arm suddenly becomes $12,000 to make sure that Maria and her 5 kids can use the ER as a clinic when they get a snotty nose. That sh*t needs to stop. Anyone at the ER should have to provide evidence of ability to pay or be turned away, or at the very least provide proof that they're in the country legally. Otherwise, kick 'em to the curb. I don't care if they're bleeding from the eyes - no validation, no service, amigo!
Uhuh, and my BIL pulls in around 300K a year as a pill pusher to doctors and an occasional gift for them to take it. Stocks are sky high and executive bonuses are quite lucrative for those in the pharmaceutical Industry. It is one of the highest profit producing industries in this country.

They make so much money they have a surplus of other peoples money to push to politicians.

You know as well as I do, that if the Pharma and Insurance Industry was shut down and people had to only pay what they could afford out of pocket with free market principles, these PARASITES would go bankrupt!

Corporate Global Fascism has Consequences!
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What ? Most of them are healthy and not bothering to get insurance.
That's what's causing problems with Obamacare..not enough young healthy people signing up to subsidize the old and chronically ill.

The young ones aren't that stupid.

Insurance companies used to balance the pool so that rates were somewhat even.

Now that pool is full of old and chronically ill. totally unbalanced.
Used to balance? How so?

Employees who participate in one of their employer's subsidized large group healthcare plans pay the same premium, regardless of age. This was true before the ACA and remains true.

Many young people work retail and food services Prior to the ACA, many corporate- owned retailers and restaurants made junk polices available to their employees. High deductibles and low annual caps were the hallmark of these plans. Way too many people, especially young people, assumed all insurance was alike. Some found out the hard way, that ignorance was not bliss.

Young people who did not have access to employer insurance tended to do without. There's a reason why nearly have of all births are paid for by Medicaid. In turn, those children tend to be insured by Medicaid for the next 18 years. None of this had anything to do with the ACA.

Young people engage in risky behavior more often than older people, engaging in unprotected sex, DUI, serious car accidents, violence and so on. Most dying of an OD are young adults and generally are uninsured.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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They're in there because they can count on the progressive left's Big Government to harvest money from the middle class to give it to cronies, including big health.

Big Business can't obtain money from folks at the muzzle of hyper-state. The progressive left's Big Government can.
Blah Left Blah Right

If you are bribing politicians to prop you up, you are a parasite on this country and most of the top Corporations in this country are PARASITES that donate to both parties.

I was hoping on Trump but am leaning more toward Sanders.

It does not matter what their secondary objective is to me.
If their first objective is to toss out Crony Capitalists then it is a win.

Example

Sanders
He will put a stop to the TPP
He is a Socialist

Trump
He will put a stop to the TPP
He is a racist

Insert Name
He will put a stop to the TPP
He is a Nazi

Get the picture?
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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More like they have learned nothing about how to support themselves and are unprepared for the real world job market. All they have learned, in all to many cases, is how to be a leach on society.
This post is lol bad.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:45 PM
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They make so much money they have a surplus of other peoples money to push to politicians.
No, you have it exactly backward: politicians flush with budgets of tax money harvested liberally from Americans by progressive leftists guarantee the income streams of their corporate cronies.

Remember, corporations can only demand money from subjects by the muzzle of an approving progressive leftist state and its firepower.

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You know as well as I do, that if the Pharma and Insurance Industry was shut down and people had to only pay what they could afford out of pocket with free market principles, these PARASITES would go bankrupt!
You shut it down by refusing to pay. But your leftist Big Government is making you pay, guaranteeing crony income. And moreover guaranteeing it on crony terms.

That's why your premiums keep rising, and engineer wannabees can't find work from struggling business (in the dreaded private sector).

But the solution is: they don't need to work. They just need the access to luxury health care--which is already in place. So problem solved. They just need more luxurious, more comprehensive health care.

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Old 11-14-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Glad I bookmarked this just recently; I use it so often on CD with the anti-education people:
Earnings and unemployment rates by educational attainment

Without fail, more education = higher earnings and lower unemployment. The people I know are not exceptions. Sure there are a few outliers.
Thank you for posting this link.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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No, you have it exactly backward: politicians flush with budgets of tax money harvested liberally from Americans by progressive leftists guarantee the income streams of their corporate cronies.

Remember, corporations can't raise money at the muzzle of state firepower.


You shut it down by refusing to pay. But your leftist Big Government is making you pay, guaranteeing crony income. And moreover guaranteeing it on crony terms.

That's why your premiums keep rising, and engineer wannabees can't find work.
You have it backwards

Crony Pharma Lobbyists use the state to force people to pay in order to have more people in the stream prop them up.

Look, lets agree to disagree and throw the Corporate and Banking Lobbyists out of DC.

OK?


https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/


Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think

One thing that does have an influence? Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a “statistically non-significant impact,” economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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You do not ever effect the market principles one at a time via your purchases otherwise, corporations would not be flocking in record numbers via dollars to politicians if this was the case.

They would be relying on market principles rather than politicians via H1B, Amnesty for illegal immigrants, China Trade, Nafta, and so forth.

Record amounts of cash is being flushed into politicians coffers by special interests so those coffers need to be emptied or politicians replaced.

If corporations were operating via market principles wages would be going up to attract workers in accordance with demand.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:57 PM
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You have it backwards

Crony Pharma Lobbyists use the state to force people to pay in order to have more people in the stream prop them up.

Look, lets agree to disagree and throw the Corporate and Banking Lobbyists out of DC.

OK?


https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/


Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think

One thing that does have an influence? Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a “statistically non-significant impact,” economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence.
No you have it backward. Corporations aren't chartered and enabled to raise monies under penalties meted out by themselves.

They're the crony recipients of progressive leftist Big Government individual mandates and tax-flush budget largesse.

Try telling a corporation it's allowed to pick your pockets without the presence of progressive-leftist Big state approval and enforcement muscle.
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