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Old 11-17-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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That is actually a false statement.....but I see you believe the fear mongering, so who am I to argue?
It's not a false statement. Just read the Koran, etc. Mohammed said that it was right to use terror to spread Islam. He also said that it was right to kill men, women, children and babies. He himself was a murderer and a nut.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's not a false statement. Just read the Koran, etc. Mohammed said that it was right to use terror to spread Islam. He also said that it was right to kill men, women, children and babies. He himself was a murderer and a nut.
Oh yeah? Which page in the Koran did Mohammed say that? Though if you want, we can talk about all the idiotic things that are said in the Bible as well....just to go to show how not everyone follows everything down to the word....but I would like to see where in the Koran you read that Muslims should use terror to spread Islam....
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:06 PM
 
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What he said!

I suppose you can exchange your own versions of what you might think are brilliant foreign policy insights..., or you can pay attention to what someone who actually has responsibility for the American lives you want committed on your behalf...

"And so our goals here consistently have to be to be aggressive, and to leave no stone unturned, but also recognize this is not conventional warfare. We play into the ISIL narrative when we act as if they’re a state, and we use routine military tactics that are designed to fight a state that is attacking another state. That’s not what’s going on here."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...antalya-turkey

For those of you interested in considering more than just the basics, the full read might be worthwhile.
The mere fact that Obama and the liberals worry about "playing into the ISIS narrative" shows that they are not serious about fighting and defeating ISIS.

Why should anyone worry about ISIS's narrative -- which is already a declaration of war against infidels, Christians, Jews, the West, democracy, atheism, women, gays, etc., which already regards us as irretrievably beyond the pale?

Namby pamby Obama and the namby pamby liberals who support him....who think they are so smart because they never accept common sense and the obvious and instead always have to feel that they are the smartest guys in the room....who will look for any reason to contradict what ordinary, sensible people think....who always have to be the "nice guys" who will worry about every little thing that THEY think might make us look bad -- like for instance, not tying our soldiers' hands behind their backs, or refusing to accept refugees that the CIA, State Department and FBI have said we can't vet.

Hey Obama and liberals: Why not just surrender and be done with it?
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:11 PM
 
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Oh yeah? Which page in the Koran did Mohammed say that? Though if you want, we can talk about all the idiotic things that are said in the Bible as well....just to go to show how not everyone follows everything down to the word....but I would like to see where in the Koran you read that Muslims should use terror to spread Islam....
The pages and verses have been quoted here ad infinitum.

Don't pretend you haven't seen them.

Christians are not blowing themselves up in order to kill innocent men, women, children and babies.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The pages and verses have been quoted here ad infinitum.

Don't pretend you haven't seen them.

Christians are not blowing themselves up in order to kill innocent men, women, children and babies.
Yeah, I haven't been reading too much when it comes to the Syria hysteria that has taken over this forum, so why don't you refresh me on where that is said in the Koran, I would like to read which verse you are talking about.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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Theres over 100 hundred lines in the Quran that call for violence and killing, heres just a few.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:44 PM
 
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Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, ..."
See liberals? The Quran is actually talking about you.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:56 PM
 
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Theres over 100 hundred lines in the Quran that call for violence and killing, heres just a few.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Well thanks for the quotes, though I am guessing you don't actually understand what you are quoting....here is a good link that breaks down a few of them for you to better understand what you are actually reading, though I doubt you will.....nor do I think you will let go of this fear mongering that you are enriched in.

http://www.lohar.com/An_Anti-Islam_poster.pdf
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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Well thanks for the quotes, though I am guessing you don't actually understand what you are quoting....here is a good link that breaks down a few of them for you to better understand what you are actually reading, though I doubt you will.....nor do I think you will let go of this fear mongering that you are enriched in.

http://www.lohar.com/An_Anti-Islam_poster.pdf
Denial at work.

Fingers in ears, la la la la la.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:10 AM
 
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Well thanks for the quotes, though I am guessing you don't actually understand what you are quoting....here is a good link that breaks down a few of them for you to better understand what you are actually reading, though I doubt you will.....nor do I think you will let go of this fear mongering that you are enriched in.

http://www.lohar.com/An_Anti-Islam_poster.pdf
I know what I'm reading... english translations, they aren't hard to understand. Heres a few of the same quotes with slight differences, the message itself is exactly the same. Stop trying to look like the smarter person, its not going well for you.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL Surah Al-Isra - The Noble Qur'an -
And when We intend to destroy a city, We command its affluent but they defiantly disobey therein; so the word comes into effect upon it, and We destroy it with [complete] destruction.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL Surah Al-Ahzab - The Noble Qur'an -
If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is disease and those who spread rumors in al-Madinah do not cease, We will surely incite you against them; then they will not remain your neighbors therein except for a little. Accursed wherever they are found, [being] seized and massacred completely.


Both passages clearly call for the destruction and murder of people and whole societies who simply reject Islam. If you cant see that, no one can help you but a doctor.
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