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View Poll Results: Do you Agree with Obama that Americans are Shameful?
No 267 84.23%
Yes 50 15.77%
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
Reading comprehension 101: Don't see what you want it to say, read what it actually says.
This is what th quote was:
Obama calls idea of screening Syrian refugees based on religion ‘shameful,’
Insult is not argument. It only means you lack logic & fact to address something that you don't like.

Furthermore, address the entire quote, instead paraphrasing a small cherry picked portion of it so it can be taken out of context.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962 View Post
How many of our own homeless should we ignore so that we can take care of 185,000 refugees?
How many children living in cars with their homeless parents should we neglect so that can care for 185,000 syrian refugees, most of whom are men 18 to 45 years of age?
Obama should feel ashamed for turning his back on our own needy just so he can make himself look like a good guy on the world stage. This is Obama's MO. It's always about how he can make himself look good at the expense of his nation.
This was the GOP raising the issue, since when do they worry about the homeless.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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For a Nation who preaches democracy and humanity....Sorry..denying refugee's just because a handful just may slip thru is actually nothing more than shameful.

Post 9/11 USA is far superior to likely most European Countries...Because of 9/11...European Countries have been lax..and especially Belgium..THEY should be ashamed of themselves!!

But to deny true refugee's because of propaganda..is simply a false narrative..Congress has been silent ..over a year ago ( GOP Majority both Houses) ..refuse to even address BO requesting authorization.....NOW say he is conducting a war against the Constitution....Man these guys are NUTS!! Just like when BO had Warships off coast of Syria ( once Chemical Weapons proven) and UK voted against invading/attacking..and Congress when asked//SILENCE!!

However..Ships poised to attack did bring Syria to the table thru PUkin..and yep they were found and removed....and THAT was that "Red Line".....Now GOP is rewriting history..blames BO..yet Majority party in Congress rather pursue Benghazi//or Planned Parenthood..instead of dealing with foreign policy!!!

NOW with millions of refugee's fleeing into surrounding Countries..and USA, the preacher of compassion for oppressed..haven't got the GUTS to take in .o6% of their population...Rather..BAR the DOOR..Keep those folks OUT!! Despicable!!

Canada will be taking in 25,000..Man oh man!! That's .75%..thats like 480X what the "Most Powerful Nation" on the Face of the Earth is willing to accept by C-D standards....Yep..Precisely...preach it!! Kool-Aid sold by Politicians/Pundits..don't care which party stripe they wear!! You either walk the talk..or ****!!
I agree with this.

I grew up with many children who were refugees, a large amount of them were Muslims from Iran.

America has VERY stringent refugee processes and I do feel it is shameful that too many Americans are so ignorant to think that we already haven't accepted hundreds of thousands of refugees or that all people from the Middle East are terrorist.

Of all the mass shootings and recent "attacks" here in America on the news, pray tell, how many were refugees hell bent on destroying us?
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Syrian Refugee Already Missing In Louisiana
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"However, the State Department’s ‘screening process’ for refugees is not 'rigorous' at all, nor can it be trusted to weed out potential terrorists.
Hence, this is why the Boston Bombers, Somali Muslim refugees who converted to jihad, a Rwandan genocide terrorist and the Portland Christmas Tree Bomber were all allowed into the country as 'political refugees.'"
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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BTW, Germany is now deporting 1000s of Syrian Refugees because they entered the country under false pretenses.

Refugee crisis: Angela Merkel signals deportation of economic migrants from Germany as EC President Jean-Claude Juncker calls for migration summit | Europe | News | The Independent
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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So, you can't find argument with his actual quote. You assume he wants to bring radical, violent kooks into our country--a country he, himself, calls home. Again, address the REAL quote and find the error. In fact, read the entire speech to find his thoughts on terrorism. He covers it in detail.
If you don't think that not addressing the issue is an argumentative error, well, I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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A friend of mine who lives in Germany and he said if anyone spoke out against Muslims or Syrian refugees the liberals called them Nazi's. Political correctness to silence people took hold there too.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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Well Obama can deal with the backlash. The majority of Americans do not want these refugees. Do you see Arab nations offering to take in refugees? Why is that? Syrians are better suited to those countries but guess what the benefits that come from Europe and the U.S. are better. Look at the problems countries that have taken in refugees are now experiencing. America needs to stop meddling and worry about taking care of our own. I understand that a lot of people are fleeing a bad situation but why are there so many single men? Shouldn't they be fighting for their country? I don't care what this country was built on. We have immigration laws, limited resources, population growth that will not slow, etc.

United States of Islam- Is that our future?
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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For all of you on the right and left participating in the Syrian immigrant hysteria, I am confused and disturbed.

Why do you abandon the very principals on which this country was built when you are afraid? We are a country of immigrants, that was built by immigrants. In the past, it is immigration that has made this country strong. However, we are a country that cherishes religious freedom-- and now many call for a religious test on immigrants?

These are legal immigrants. These are people who have no country-- Seeing their own was destroyed.

How come so many said that gun control legislation in response to Newtown was an "emotional overreaction", but don't recognize the emotional overreaction present in today's dialog about Syrian immigrants and Isis?

How cowardly and small the US must look from the outside when we immediately abandon our principals in the name of the illusion of safety.
Exactly. The shameful behavior here is by the scared little conservatives. The very same ones who used a terrorist attack to bring us the Patriot Act that did more to take away our freedoms in the name of "safety" than it did to actually make us safe; who invaded a country using trumped up charges; who ignored due process; who tortured prisoners; who basically advocate for destroying the very principles this country was founded on, the very principles they claim to love as they wave their flags and chant USA! USA! USA! What country are they chanting for? Because it certainly isn't the one they apparently want us to be.

Apparently we've learned nothing since 9/11, when innocent Muslim Americans were terrorized for their religion right here in their own country. The point of terrorism is to frighten us into out-sized reactions to the actual threat they pose, and American Conservatives are more than willing to give them that power.

In doing so, we punish the very victims of the terrorists a second time. America used to be a beacon of hope in the world. Today we have turned into a country of hateful cowards. That is something to be ashamed of.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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This was the GOP raising the issue, since when do they worry about the homeless.
Deflection at its best.
It is an issue we should all be concerned with. Democrats in power claim to be concerned and yet not really. I'm an Ind. Not GOP or Dem. I personally don't believe either party is interested in what is best for the nation, only what's best to maintain their power base.
So I ask again. How do we justify taking in 185,000 refugees when we haven't cared for our own homeless?
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