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Old 11-22-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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One has to qualify as a refugee first before they can be granted asylum. Anyone cannot simply apply for asylum just because they are here on vacation and they feel like they want to move to the US.

Those who are granted asylum are by definition already refugees.

Bingo!
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Actually, no, they were not designated as refugees.
Playing word games with labels is a distraction.


Recall that Russia called and mentioned, 'you might want to watch this one guy'. not that a phone call frm Russia means anything. So obama admin puts a herd of three lettered federal agencies on the case and they claim the guy is squeaky clean and Russia is just being Russia....all this just before the Boston bombers exploded bombs in the crowd watching the boston marathon.


The lesson of the boston bombers is not to be lost on the gross negligence, political correctness and incompetence of the obama admin to protect the American people.


Empty words from obama isthe lesson of the boston bombers whatever legal contortion describing their status.


Obama airpot security fails 97% of the time when challenged with fake bombs.
So if you want to lean back and trust your life to obama, go ahead and continue to convince yourself with academic argument.
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Playing word games with labels is a distraction.


Recall that Russia called and mentioned, 'you might want to watch this one guy'. not that a phone call frm Russia means anything. So obama admin puts a herd of three lettered federal agencies on the case and they claim the guy is squeaky clean and Russia is just being Russia....all this just before the Boston bombers exploded bombs in the crowd watching the boston marathon.


The lesson of the boston bombers is not to be lost on the gross negligence, political correctness and incompetence of the obama admin to protect the American people.


Empty words from obama isthe lesson of the boston bombers whatever legal contortion describing their status.


Obama airpot security fails 97% of the time when challenged with fake bombs.
So if you want to lean back and trust your life to obama, go ahead and continue to convince yourself with academic argument.
And then 3000 people were killed in New York when planes flew into our big, tall buildings.

Oh wait.
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Early America
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Did anyone forget that these two were supposed refugees from their homeland?
So was the shooter of the TN recruiting office. Seems like everyone has forgotten about that.

His neighbors, friends and classmates thought he was "the coolest guy" and other niceties.
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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Playing word games with labels is a distraction.

Empty words from obama isthe lesson of the boston bombers whatever legal contortion describing their status.
Exactly. It's semantics. Instead of admitting they were refugees, the Left is back tracking and saying, "um, actually, they were granted asylum" to try to differentiate between the Tsarnev brothers and the current Syrian refugees.

Both are refugees. The Tsarnev family was fleeing war-torn Chechnya, because the Muslims in Chechnya started a war with the peaceful Russians. So once again, it was the stupid Muslim's fault. The Tsarnev family came here and what do you, years later they decide they can't stand the peaceful life of America and they have to destroy it with Muslim terrorism.
They are too stupid to even learn from their own mistakes. Just plain, all around, stupid.

The Syrian refugees are no different, they are fleeing yet another war that was started by Islam. Now they want to come here. Guess how many months or years before a few of them decide to repay us by killing as many innocent Americans as they can.

Look at how many it takes to kill and maim hundreds. There were only 2 Tsarnev brothers, and look how many people they successfully killed and maimed.

Now imagine what 100,000 Muslim Syrians could do to our country. It only takes a handful of them to be violent at once, and they can do major damage.

Muslim immigrants and Muslim refugees should be banned from the USA. There is no telling when they will decide to "self-radicalize" and go out and start killing.
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Exactly. It's semantics. Instead of admitting they were refugees, the Left is back tracking and saying, "um, actually, they were granted asylum" to try to differentiate between the Tsarnev brothers and the current Syrian refugees.

Both are refugees. The Tsarnev family was fleeing war-torn Chechnya, because the Muslims in Chechnya started a war with the peaceful Russians. So once again, it was the stupid Muslim's fault. The Tsarnev family came here and what do you, years later they decide they can't stand the peaceful life of America and they have to destroy it with Muslim terrorism.
They are too stupid to even learn from their own mistakes. Just plain, all around, stupid.

The Syrian refugees are no different, they are fleeing yet another war that was started by Islam. Now they want to come here. Guess how many months or years before a few of them decide to repay us by killing as many innocent Americans as they can.

Look at how many it takes to kill and maim hundreds. There were only 2 Tsarnev brothers, and look how many people they successfully killed and maimed.

Now imagine what 100,000 Muslim Syrians could do to our country. It only takes a handful of them to be violent at once, and they can do major damage.

Muslim immigrants and Muslim refugees should be banned from the USA. There is no telling when they will decide to "self-radicalize" and go out and start killing.


There are already Syrian and Iraqi refugees in this country and they are peaceful. Over reacting to a one recent incident never ends in good policy, sensible discussion can debate would be more meaningful.


We have already seen that fear can drive very bad decisions as was the case in WW2.


The Boston Bombings were over 2 years ago we should not be developing policy and punishing innocent immigrants because of something that happened in France a few weeks ago. Frances reaction has been quite different than the US and they were the subject of these attacks.
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Old 11-22-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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There are already Syrian and Iraqi refugees in this country and they are peaceful. Over reacting to a one recent incident never ends in good policy, sensible discussion can debate would be more meaningful.


We have already seen that fear can drive very bad decisions as was the case in WW2.


The Boston Bombings were over 2 years ago we should not be developing policy and punishing innocent immigrants because of something that happened in France a few weeks ago. Frances reaction has been quite different than the US and they were the subject of these attacks.

So we should wait till it happens to us before we "react"? No one is "punishing" innocent immigrants. We just have to be very cautious about whom we allow into our country.
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Old 11-22-2015, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Obama attended an Indonesian public school | PolitiFact


CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN.com

Yet..no one bothers to read it..but worse..they disregard facts..But hey..it's a free world in USA and lack of facts mean's nothing to a certain segment of society..well..at least on Political threads on C-d


Obama Debunks Claim About Islamic School - washingtonpost.com


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Doesn't matter how many times their crap is proven wrong they keep repeating it hoping it will magically become fact.
It's the same old same old repeat of lies or spinning a snapshot of some speech and twist it into a pretzel to suite a particular BO bashing thread...I also noted..It's always done particularly as a deflecting tactic....

As an outsider..It's the nuances of blogs that actually speaks to the rationale behind the person blogging such drivels..and expect EVERYONE to believe it!!

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Wait, I need to check what the public opinion polls are saying before I answer this question
ROFLMBO!! Is that you Donald??..Or maybe some other Political Candidate? LOL

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What the H are you even talking about ? Do YOU even know? The crap about Obama has been proven wrong MANY years ago but some still speak as if its truth.
LOL..You are talking the the hand JohnnyM.. The nonsense posted..opinions based of fear mongered politicians..Political Sites spreading mis-informations has been going on forever..BUT intensified since BO first got elected in November 2008....The rhetoric intensified to NOW a level I have never witnessed before
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Old 11-22-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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The boston bombers were "refugees".
With all the refugees here, you'd expect this place would to blowing up like the 4th of July.

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Old 11-22-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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There are already Syrian and Iraqi refugees in this country and they are peaceful. Over reacting to a one recent incident never ends in good policy, sensible discussion can debate would be more meaningful.


We have already seen that fear can drive very bad decisions as was the case in WW2.


The Boston Bombings were over 2 years ago we should not be developing policy and punishing innocent immigrants because of something that happened in France a few weeks ago. Frances reaction has been quite different than the US and they were the subject of these attacks.
I work in an area of CA with a very large Iraqui population. The area unfortunately also attracts low-income people who bring lots of crime, and a not so good vagrant homeless population. I'm not sure why so many homeless are attracted to this area, but they are.

I feel safer around the Iraquis. Lol

In all seriousness, it is fear of the unknown. I really wish people would be humble, sit down and have conversations with actual refugees. Many have lost it all, have been tortured, persecuted, and are very happy and grateful to be here.

Many are also stressed because their families are still left behind living in war torn areas with alot of strife. So sad.
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