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Old 11-20-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've never met a senior who wanted to repeal Medicare. I doubt it's perfect but it works.

Your theory doesn't make any sense. If Democrats are pro-subsidy, why are they plotting to withhold them? If Democrats intended that interpretation, why did they go to court to prevent the bill being read that way?
Baucus said that it was intentional so that the states would create exchanges.
He thought all states would do it. It was an incentive.

Turns out he was wrong, really wrong.


The bill should not have specified "State exchange" and instead just specified "healthcare exchange" and then there wouldn't have been any lawsuits and the Supreme Court would not have had to been involved.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Baucus said that it was intentional so that the states would create exchanges.
He thought all states would do it. It was an incentive.

Turns out he was wrong, really wrong.


The bill should not have specified "State exchange" and instead just specified "healthcare exchange" and then there wouldn't have been any lawsuits and the Supreme Court would not have had to been involved.
With your wording, any private enterprise could set up an exchange and demand subsidies.
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/health-ins...--finance.html

No worries, Obama will print more money to keep this Titanic afloat.

This is a prime example of what happens to programs that our government runs.
And, the first domino has started to fall. Let's see what happens when Anthem, Humana, Aetna go next
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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With your wording, any private enterprise could set up an exchange and demand subsidies.
I was just giving an example. The wording in the bill was very specific and that's why it went to court.

State or Federal exchange maybe ? Regardless the wording in the bill was not correct.
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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I was just giving an example. The wording in the bill was very specific and that's why it went to court.

State or Federal exchange maybe ? Regardless the wording in the bill was not correct.
Wordings in bills are wrong all the time; the process of drafting a bill is complex, different parts are written separately and added together, and sometimes things don't fit together right. In a functional legislature, those issues get fixed as a matter of course, but of course nowadays every ambiguity is another hill to die on.
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Old 11-20-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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So there are not enough insurers doing well to pay the way for the ones that are not..

HHS: Bailing out Obamacare insurers an 'obligation' of the federal government | Washington Examiner

Humm I wonder where they are going to get the other 88% of the subsidy money? Yup, out of the pocket of the middle class worker!


Nice! Keep voting moonbat and put the final stake in the heart of this country.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wordings in bills are wrong all the time; the process of drafting a bill is complex, different parts are written separately and added together, and sometimes things don't fit together right. In a functional legislature, those issues get fixed as a matter of course, but of course nowadays every ambiguity is another hill to die on.
The Dems owned that bill. Both House and Senate were majority Dem.
They got not one single Republican vote.

2009 WAS a functional Congress..Dem ruled and they didn't need Repubs.

Did you forget that part ?
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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The Dems owned that bill. Both House and Senate were majority Dem.
They got not one single Republican vote.

2009 WAS a functional Congress..Dem ruled and they didn't need Repubs.

Did you forget that part ?
You misremember. Democrats had 60 senators only for the brief windows where Ted Kennedy was healthy and Al Frankin had been sworn in after a lengthy recount. By the time these kinds of ambiguities were being challenged, Kennedy was dead and replaced by a Republican.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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definitely not going to happen.

they would lose legal status in most states if they did that.

it's a publicity stunt.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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The Dems owned that bill. Both House and Senate were majority Dem.
They got not one single Republican vote.

2009 WAS a functional Congress..Dem ruled and they didn't need Repubs.

Did you forget that part ?




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You misremember. Democrats had 60 senators only for the brief windows where Ted Kennedy was healthy and Al Frankin had been sworn in after a lengthy recount. By the time these kinds of ambiguities were being challenged, Kennedy was dead and replaced by a Republican.


We'll never forget that when the Dems used a rule not intended for things such as this legislation to shove this crap that the majority of Americans railed against down our throats.

Never.
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