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Old 11-22-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Nobody idolizes people like Putin for killing civilians, except some Putin leg humpers in America.
Insult isn't argument. It only means you can't address message based on logic & fact.

Putin has 87% approval rating with his on people. They idolize him for putting interests of country first. Putin is killing enemy that killed Russians.

What is Obama's approval rate? LOL Again results speak for themselves.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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It's easy to beat a government, not so easy to beat an insurgency. Bush can attest to that.
That is a fallacious excuse.

Putin is proving otherwise. He had done it before and he is doing it again.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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What gets me is obama drops leaflets before airstrikes? Really? If you are knowingly driving fuel trucks for a terrorist state, then you are supporting them. Therefore , you shouldn't have any warning . Those trucks drivers will just go on and drive another truck another day.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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Learn anything from WWII?
What we learned in WWII was that carpet bombing of cities did absolutely nothing to degrade the Nazi's will to fight. And if you want to jump on Japan... well the as we demonstrated over in the history forum, Russia's declaration of war did more to bring Japan to heal than the atomic bomb.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Insult isn't argument. It only means you can't address message based on logic & fact.

Putin has 87% approval rating with his on people. They idolize him for putting interests of country first. Putin is killing enemy that killed Russians.

What is Obama's approval rate? LOL Again results speak for themselves.
Let me repeat: None of the GOP presidential candidates would agree its a good idea to wipe out the civilians in order to get ISIS to surrender.

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Old 11-22-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Killing civilians when it can be avoided is a war crime. QED.

Mental masturbation over the horrors perpetrated by all sides in WW2 does not change that, it just makes the masturbator look like a sociopath. Pointing out that the enemy commits war crimes does not change that either, it just makes the speaker look like someone whose mother didn't take enough time explaining right and wrong.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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What we learned in WWII was that carpet bombing of cities did absolutely nothing to degrade the Nazi's will to fight. And if you want to jump on Japan... well the as we demonstrated over in the history forum, Russia's declaration of war did more to bring Japan to heal than the atomic bomb.
Exactly my point. So either way its a lose , lose situation . They will still fight if you save "civilians" or not.....
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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Meanwhile, while Russia was leveling a deserted Raqqa the U.S. destroyed 300 oil tankers actually bring damage to ISIS's ability to export oil. Apparently our laptop commandos are more enamored by flash but little substance.
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Exactly my point. So either way its a lose , lose situation . They will still fight if you save "civilians" or not.....
What you missed is that when you bomb civilians you serve as a recruiting tool. The idea is to lesson the desire to join ISIS not serve as a recruiting poster. Did you folks not learn anything from ten years of war in Iraq?
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Old 11-22-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Let me repeat: None of the GOP presidential candidates would agree its a good idea to wipe out the civilians in order to get ISIS to surrender.

Putin actually shows that he is a capable leader. Whats bad about supporting someone that actually demonstrates that he can handle a crisis when his country is faced with it?

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