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Old 11-27-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Minimum lot size requirements effectively say that if you cannot afford to buy an entire lot, you are not permitted to buy any fraction of the lot that you can afford.
A crusade against zoning laws?
Zoning laws protect your investment. You buy a lot for 50 grand. Build a house for 250G.
Some guy buys the lot next to you and sets up a junk yard. You just lost your investment.
Some guy buys the lot next to you and opens an adult peep show. You lost your investment and are exposed to a bunch of pervs.
Some guy buys the lot next to you and opens a kennel. The guy is scum treats the dogs bad and never cleans. You lost your investment and have to deal with barking dogs and the stench.
There are properties for sale for varying income base. If you're cash strapped there are always trailer parks to choose from.
Me I like zoning laws. They protect me and my investment.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If Americans have a right to acquire property, what is the source of this right?
No, you do not have a right to land in this country.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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No, you do not have a right to land in this country.

exactly, property ownership is a privilege, which means there is nothing to prevent class warfare in legislating property rights.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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exactly, property ownership is a privilege, which means there is nothing to prevent class warfare in legislating property rights.
And? It has always been the way, land is for those that can afford to buy land. If you want land to buy, you should look somewhere that it is in your price range. My guess is where you currently live is not that place.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:57 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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And? It has always been the way, land is for those that can afford to buy land. If you want land to buy, you should look somewhere that it is in your price range. My guess is where you currently live is not that place.
You are 100% correct
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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And? It has always been the way, land is for those that can afford to buy land. If you want land to buy, you should look somewhere that it is in your price range. My guess is where you currently live is not that place.
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You are 100% correct
50% correct. For most of America's history you could homestead open land and eventually get legal title to it as long as you were willing to move to the edge of civilization, wherever it happened to be during your era.
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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No, you do not have a right to land in this country.
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exactly, property ownership is a privilege, which means there is nothing to prevent class warfare in legislating property rights.
wrong, you CAN buy property in this country, as long as you can afford said property. if you cant, tough.

as for zoning laws, as noted they protect the investment people make in the property they buy. as i have said before, and you wont get it through your thick head, if you buy a house, you dont really want an industrial company moving onto the property next door. for instance you dont want a tallow company moving next to your house and you having to put up the the stench everyday.

or suppose the city decided to put up a sewage treatment plant next door to your house? would you want that? or how about a machine shop, or foundry? or maybe someone puts up an adult club as noted above, or any number of other things that will cause you problems as long as you live there, and you lose your property value, so if you decide to sell, you will lose money as a result.

as for buying a property that has been subdivided, there are legalities involved there that prevent such things from happening. there again if you dont like it, then try to get the law changed. otherwise, shut up about it.
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Old 11-27-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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wrong, you CAN buy property in this country, as long as you can afford said property. if you cant, tough.

as for zoning laws, as noted they protect the investment people make in the property they buy. as i have said before, and you wont get it through your thick head, if you buy a house, you dont really want an industrial company moving onto the property next door. for instance you dont want a tallow company moving next to your house and you having to put up the the stench everyday.

or suppose the city decided to put up a sewage treatment plant next door to your house? would you want that? or how about a machine shop, or foundry? or maybe someone puts up an adult club as noted above, or any number of other things that will cause you problems as long as you live there, and you lose your property value, so if you decide to sell, you will lose money as a result.

as for buying a property that has been subdivided, there are legalities involved there that prevent such things from happening. there again if you dont like it, then try to get the law changed. otherwise, shut up about it.
Was this post suppose to be to me? Because I agree, land is for anyone who can afford to pay for it, which is why I said owning property is not a right.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:31 PM
 
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And? It has always been the way, land is for those that can afford to buy land. If you want land to buy, you should look somewhere that it is in your price range. My guess is where you currently live is not that place.

many people can afford to buy land but are denied the opportunity to buy land in increments they can afford.

you don't need a full-size lot to live in a tiny house, plus the full-size lot is an inefficient and unecological use of land which promotes sprawl.

that's similar to government requiring that milk be sold only in volumes of one half gallon or greater.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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Was this post suppose to be to me? Because I agree, land is for anyone who can afford to pay for it, which is why I said owning property is not a right.

The issue I see is that people who can afford 2,500 sq ft of land but not 10,000 sq ft of land are not allowed to purchase the 2,500 sq ft they can afford.

Why do you support government getting in the way willing buyers and sellers?
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