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Old 12-04-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Owner of the shooters' town home has invited the media inside to take a look- see.

The general public are also walking through. Reports of someone with their dog and a mom and her infant are among the curious.

 
Old 12-04-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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See something, say something. All this PC nonsense that has overtaken this country needs to stop. Neighbors could have possibly helped stop this shooting had they not been fearful of being labeled racists. Good job PC police, you dopes. You PC and feelings brigade nonsense just may have helped lead to the murder of 14 people.

And now we have this pig of a woman, our AG comforting Muslims while ignoring the rest of us.

Profiling works. You see or suspect ANYTHING say something. To hell with what the media and liberals want to label you. You could save lives.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by jmking View Post
Ok, suppose an off duty armed police officer was at that party. Suppose that one person was a crack shot? At the minimum he/she could have shot one of the muslim terrorist.

Paris has very strict gun control. Lets say it was not in Paris but Atlanta, Georgia instead? Even if one armed citizen knocks down only one terrorist, how many lives would have been saved?
Murderers used automatic weapons to spray the room.

It's a rare gun owner who is a crack shot, let alone remotely competent to respond in an active shooter incident.

Think the injuries and fatalities could have been worse than it was had many at this holiday party been carrying.

And for all any of us know, one or more at the party were carrying at the time of the incident.
Most people who attend parties don't stand in a corner ready, willing and able to fire in the unlikely event a whack job or terrorist walks in and starts shooting.

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Old 12-04-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Sick of hearing about gun laws. Gun laws would not have prevented this. Yet its the first thing some of these dopes whine about. The media and Democrat politicians are absolute mindless scumbags. And you had that stupid twit, Barbara Boxer saying California gun laws work. RIGHT AFTER THIS HAPPENED! She had the balls to say that!?!? Unreal.

See something, anything, say something. Profile.....it works despite what the Left says. Feelings dont come first over lives. Buy a firearm, get training how to use it safely. Get a permit to carry if you can. Practice with it. Never know when you may need it.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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The left wing has no problem classifying San Bernardino as an Islamic terrorist attack, if that's where the facts lie.

Still waiting for the right wing to admit Robert Dear in Colorado was an act of conservative Christian terrorism. It's amazing how the righties are making excuses for this guy, "Oh he's just mentally ill." He might be, but politically motivated attacks on abortion providers is terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism, whether it's done by Muslims or by evangelicals.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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It's amazing how the news is still saying they are not sure this is a terroist plan....absolutely freaking amazing....

Loyalty to isis.....well.....we are still not sure...
The Feds are close to calling it that, but it's still very possible that a larger terrorist attack was being planned and a workplace argument caused an impromptu attack where they guy worked i.e. that terrorizing was not the main objective at the workplace which is a criteria that needs to be met to reach the legal definition of terrorism. They most likely were on their way to a second location that was their real, terrorist target. The world is not as black and white as you wish it was. Waiting a day or two for all the facts to come out just saves the Feds and local law enforcement from having to do retractions later on if the facts don't support the evidences that comes out. Sorry you can't understand that.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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The left wing has no problem classifying San Bernardino as an Islamic terrorist attack, if that's where the facts lie.

Still waiting for the right wing to admit Robert Dear in Colorado was an act of conservative Christian terrorism. It's amazing how the righties are making excuses for this guy, "Oh he's just mentally ill." He might be, but politically motivated attacks on abortion providers is terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism, whether it's done by Muslims or by evangelicals.
We now have solid evidence of these vile killer's ties to Islamic State. When similar evidence of Robert Dear's political motivation is found, then he would be regarded as a terrorist as well. However, so far no such evidence has been disclosed.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: exit 0
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Owner of the shooters' town home has invited the media inside to take a look- see.

The general public are also walking through. Reports of someone with their dog and a mom and her infant are among the curious.
I can not believe that the apartment manager took the plywood off the door! SMDH
 
Old 12-04-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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And yet the heavily screened Tsarnaev Brothers came here as refugees and committed the Boston bombings.

Muslim = terrorist.
Are eight-year-olds heavily screened? That's how old the younger brother was. I don't know their age difference; maybe his brother was 11 when he entered the US
 
Old 12-04-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
If you sold your gun to me, who, besides the two of us, would know?

If you sold your gun to me and then reported it stolen, who would know differently?

I am unaware of reasonable objective criteria that could be used to determine if someone was mentally fit enough to buy a gun.

I am unaware of reasonable objective criteria that could be used to determine who is a would- be terrorist.

Straw purchasers have a tendency to report the gun was stolen or otherwise had gone missing.
a firearm transfer needs paperwork. this would be an illegal transaction.

some nuances vary by state.
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