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Old 12-03-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, that is what Trump himself is telling us. Trump would kill the children, brothers and sisters, and granny.

"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families,"
If they are used as shields. You left that out.

 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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The only reasonable predictor of future violence is a history of violence. Farook had no prior history.

What reasonable criteria should an employer use to determine a job applicant's potential for future violence in absence of a history?

Crystal ball?

Tarot Cards?

Astrology?

No; I am not into that stuff. But we do have a Country that is very quick to replace American workers with foreign nationals - just ask Disney. I know that he was an US citizen; possibly she was not? It is just a terrible combination; if these two were indeed radicalized. You have somebody with access to our food supply and somebody with access to drugs.


Bombs and guns are bad enough. But when you consider other possibilities nobody can foresee all the consequences.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Was everyone in the party room a Christian?

Is it not possible there were people of different faiths and no faith in that room? Is it not possible some of the attendees were Muslim?

Was he an invited or uninvited guest at the party?

We're these people in the party room his co- workers or some other county group?

Investigators have their work cut out for them on all fronts.
This is a Muslim name:

Salihin Kondoker, whose wife was shot during the rampage, told TODAY that his son first learned of her involvement when a friend saw television images of her being treated at a local hospital.

Kondoker said she was recovering from gun wounds to her right arm.

San Bernardino, California, Massacre Suspects Could Have Terror Links - NBC News
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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He was making $70,000+ and his arranged marriage wife likely came with a dowry.
Education and opportunity will stop terrorism.


Bwahahahahaahhaha
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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There was no third shooter?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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There could have been all kinds of reasons why they stopped shooting. If this was all planned; perhaps they measured the police response time to that location. He was witnessed walking calmly to his vehicle - like he knew they would escape. Or, maybe, it was just too gruesome in the building for the two to continue? We don't know and will probably never know.
I heard this morning that it was a plan to kill many more with the bombs. The usual procedure is to have everyone shelter in place while the first responders clear the building section by section. The shooters left three pipe bombs attached to a remote control car that they could detonate remotely. Thankfully, the bombs failed.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If the party was the target all along, why did he bother to make an appearance? Why engage in a dispute when your intent is to quickly return and murder?

They certainly had more fire power than was necessary to take out the party. Why did they stop shooting and depart?

How much did ideology vs psychology play into this?

These were two seriously whacked out peas in a pod.
His wife dropped off the child to participate in the shooting.He probably wanted to see where the party was in the building to scope it out to come back and kill.
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I heard this morning that it was a plan to kill many more with the bombs. The usual procedure is to have everyone shelter in place while the first responders clear the building section by section. The shooters left three pipe bombs attached to a remote control car that they could detonate remotely. Thankfully, the bombs failed.

Thanks! Was that the reason they stayed close so that they could detonate the bombs?
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Austin
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FBI agents have discovered nearly 5,000 rounds of ammunition, a dozen pipe bombs and hundreds of tools for making improvised explosive devices at a home in California linked to San Bernardino gunman Syed Farook and his Pakistani wife, Tashfeen Malik. But Obama doesn't know if the couple were Muslim terrorists or were acting out workplace violence? Obama is either a dumb ass....or a liar.

Also, neighbors of Muslim extremist husband and wife San Bernardino shooters 'noticed them acting suspiciously but did NOT report them for fear of racial profiling'.

2001-If you see something, say something.
2105-If you see something and say something, you are a racist!
 
Old 12-03-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
The only reasonable predictor of future violence is a history of violence. Farook had no prior history.

What reasonable criteria should an employer use to determine a job applicant's potential for future violence in absence of a history?

Crystal ball?

Tarot Cards?

Astrology?
Religion. Haven't we seen enough? Do we really need to debate the evidence that Islam is a violent religion and anyone who practices it is more likely to become violent than others?
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