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Old 12-06-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by Magnum Mike View Post
How about this law, ENFORCE current laws and prosecute those who violate them.

We've all learned by now that no laws can prevent criminals and terrorists from getting guns, or any other weapons, and committing criminal and other horrendous acts.
Gun laws are like locks they are to keep honest people honest. Honest people do not mind following laws to purchase things.

Its the dishonest we need to protect from using a system of laws with loop holes. Those loop holes need to be corrected when they are found.
The NRA and their GOP allies push the regulation is bad thing and use that to not correct issues.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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Gun laws are like locks they are to keep honest people honest. Honest people do not mind following laws to purchase things.

Its the dishonest we need to protect from using a system of laws with loop holes. Those loop holes need to be corrected when they are found.
The NRA and their GOP allies push the regulation is bad thing and use that to not correct issues.
Such as? And yes, honest people still dislike jumping through hoops to buy things.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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See #99
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Back round checks that go deep into the person wishing to purchase, 35 day's minimum between check and taking the gun home.
No more purchase of guns at gun shows. no back round check no sale.
Gun show purchases are regulated.

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No more purchase and give the gun to someone else. Original purchaser needs to go to jail if the gifted or given weapon is used in a crime.
Straw purchases are already illegal.

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Keep purchase records in a proper data base. The gun manufacturers are who I think should have all purchase info for as long as the individual gun has not been destroyed, ( every transaction on every gun they make) this way the Govt will not have lists.
Yes the government is bloated and incompetent. Are you for letting the private sector take over other bloated, incompetent government programs also or just this one?

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Get assault weapons off the market. They are for one thing and one thing only, the killing of other people.
If you truly owned guns you would know what is termed an "assault weapon" works no different than any other weapon.

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A little responsibility shown by all gun owners can fix this.

A gun owner
I already covered this.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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No gun law makes sense, since ownership of an inanimate object is not a crime in and of itself.
No one is harmed by an individual possessing an object. When an individual uses the object to damage person or property, then that harm/damage is the crime. Calling an object a "gun" doesn't change this or give its special life all of its own.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Back round checks that go deep into the person wishing to purchase, 35 day's minimum between check and taking the gun home.
No more purchase of guns at gun shows. no back round check no sale.

No more purchase and give the gun to someone else. Original purchaser needs to go to jail if the gifted or given weapon is used in a crime.

Keep purchase records in a proper data base. The gun manufacturers are who I think should have all purchase info for as long as the individual gun has not been destroyed, ( every transaction on every gun they make) this way the Govt will not have lists.

Get assault weapons off the market. They are for one thing and one thing only, the killing of other people.

A little responsibility shown by all gun owners can fix this.

A gun owner
"35 day's minimum between check and taking the gun home."

I guess you don't remember the story a while back where a woman was harassed and threatened by her ex who used to beat her. She filed for a restraining order. He CONSTANTLY IGNORED IT showed up at her dor threatening to kill her.

The police did NOTHING.

She went to buy a gun and had to wait 3 days before she could take possession.

The day AFTER he broke into her house and KILLED her.

The left likes to say when they propose anything, "If it saves just one life, it IS worth it".

In today's computer world, you use your credit card and in an instance your credit record and the amount available is checked and approved, or disapproved if things don't match up.

The police do it today with your driving record if you are stopped by them.

There is NO reason wy it should not takes SECONDS to do a background check.

What would be the purpose of 35 days, when the info is available INSTANTLY?

And you want to talk about, "a little responsibility"?
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Back round checks that go deep into the person wishing to purchase, 35 day's minimum between check and taking the gun home.
No more purchase of guns at gun shows. no back round check no sale.

No more purchase and give the gun to someone else. Original purchaser needs to go to jail if the gifted or given weapon is used in a crime.

Keep purchase records in a proper data base. The gun manufacturers are who I think should have all purchase info for as long as the individual gun has not been destroyed, ( every transaction on every gun they make) this way the Govt will not have lists.

Get assault weapons off the market. They are for one thing and one thing only, the killing of other people.

A little responsibility shown by all gun owners can fix this.

A gun owner
I was just wondering if you could describe the difference in an "assault rifle" and a regular rifle?

bill
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Gun show purchases are regulated.

Not in all states.

Straw purchases are already illegal.

Yet they still happen, how to correct? Consequences to the Purchaser is all I see. Maybe allowing lawsuits on gun manufacturers.

Yes the government is bloated and incompetent. Are you for letting the private sector take over other bloated, incompetent government programs also or just this one?
This one is fine. It will keep the information in a safe place but accessible.
The NRA has created a political system which will not allow the Govt to even have studies done on gun problems.

If you truly owned guns you would know what is termed an "assault weapon" works no different than any other weapon.
Well My Marlin 30-30 is not an assault weapon.


I already covered this.
N/A for this discussion
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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"35 day's minimum between check and taking the gun home."

I guess you don't remember the story a while back where a woman was harassed and threatened by her ex who used to beat her. She filed for a restraining order. He CONSTANTLY IGNORED IT showed up at her dor threatening to kill her.

The police did NOTHING.

She went to buy a gun and had to wait 3 days before she could take possession.

The day AFTER he broke into her house and KILLED her.

The left likes to say when they propose anything, "If it saves just one life, it IS worth it".

In today's computer world, you use your credit card and in an instance your credit record and the amount available is checked and approved, or disapproved if things don't match up.

The police do it today with your driving record if you are stopped by them.

There is NO reason wy it should not takes SECONDS to do a background check.

What would be the purpose of 35 days, when the info is available INSTANTLY?

And you want to talk about, "a little responsibility"?
Its not always financial. When you go for a Job today most Corps require a back round check which takes more then 3 days.

Keep the emotions out and come up with answers I believe was part of the topic.
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Old 12-06-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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I think to use the 2nd Amendment, adopted in 1791 during the supreme ignorance that was Slavery, is absolutely no basis for determining what our gun laws should be in the 21st century. That Conservatives cling to the belief that is does, is one of the greatest absurdities of American society. Severe gun restrictions are needed today. This should include gun confiscation and harsh penalties for violators.
Why? There are 33,200 gun deaths per year, and 64% of those are suicides.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...han-homicides/

Meanwhile, there are 699,200 abortions each year to kill fetuses.

If the issue is deaths, abortion is a much bigger problem. Leads me to believe the issue gun grabbers have isn't deaths. They just want to tell other people what they can and cannot do.
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