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Old 12-05-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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2A aside, what laws that arent already on the books would you like to see implemented?
Those on the terrorist watch list should not be allowed to purchase any guns.

Ban assault weapons.

Gun registry database.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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A handful of cities have passed laws requiring gun ownership by all adults legally able to own them (no convicted felons or those adjudicated mentally incompetent). Seems like a good idea-crime has plummeted in those cities. We've already established that the government can force you to buy a product, rather you like it or not.

Perhaps President Trump can pass this by executive order.

The other one that would help would be to pass a federal law that bans "gun free zones" and bans employers from preventing carrying at work.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Those on the terrorist watch list should not be allowed to purchase any guns.

Ban assault weapons.

Gun registry database.
Terrorist watch list is a sketchy one. Some of us Veterans are concerned as we have been accused of that by some politicians.
No need to register. That just puts address and ownership out for the US government to get compromised.. They already have Concealed Weapons and ATF database.. They dont need anymore.
Assault weapons. No such thing. There really isnt. Its a made up thing by politicians to appease people.
Like Qwanza, a fake holiday...
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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So we should discuss what gun laws we would like to see, but without the emotion?
What I said in Post #2 was not based on emotion at all. It's a simple easy to understand fact about gun control.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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It should be illegal for any elected official who opposes guns to own a gun and/or receive protection from an armed Secret Service or other armed security contingent.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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You can't discuss this 2A aside. The OP knows that.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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A handful of cities have passed laws requiring gun ownership by all adults legally able to own them (no convicted felons or those adjudicated mentally incompetent). Seems like a good idea-crime has plummeted in those cities. We've already established that the government can force you to buy a product, rather you like it or not.

Perhaps President Trump can pass this by executive order.

The other one that would help would be to pass a federal law that bans "gun free zones" and bans employers from preventing carrying at work.
Source?

I would think only universal law would be effective. Ban all hand guns for instance. The intent is to reduce the inventory to a tiny fraction of what it is and drive the cost of a hand gun very high.

That likely being impossible the next best thing would be universal permissive concealed carry. Would have no substantial impact on terrorist with long guns but would cause a problem for the standard street hood.

You might make it a little harder on terror by a universal ban on auto or semi-auto devices. That is probably the limit on a ban that might conform to the Second. Improbable though.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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You can't discuss this 2A aside. The OP knows that.
Yes you can. The 2A gurantees the right to own. The laws restrict and control the people within the USA that own it. Think about it. Not everyone here is a USA citizen. And we have laws that further control who can and cannot own..
If some politicians had their way, the 2A would be amended, and then right after that 1A, then 3 and 4...
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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i agree with some of the others, no new gun control laws, we have to many on the books already, and the only people that abide by them are law abiding citizens.
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Old 12-05-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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I would think only universal law would be effective. Ban all hand guns for instance. The intent is to reduce the inventory to a tiny fraction of what it is and drive the cost of a hand gun very high.

That likely being impossible the next best thing would be universal permissive concealed carry. Would have no substantial impact on terrorist with long guns but would cause a problem for the standard street hood.

You might make it a little harder on terror by a universal ban on auto or semi-auto devices. That is probably the limit on a ban that might conform to the Second. Improbable though.
Kennesaw City GA was one. There is more out there that require. Its a hot debate, but, citys have done it.
And automatic weapons are not allowed to be produced , since the 80's I believe, and you can own them, but need an ATF stamp for it. You will be checked on with this periodically..
All guns are pretty much semi auto.. Even revolvers are , you just keep pulling triggers.
Problem with gun laws, criminals dont abide by the law. They are your problem. Not a typical US citizen. We have over 300 million guns/rifles etc that are known in this country.. Think about it.
And even with statistics showing most deaths are suicides are with guns, everyone wants to control more.
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