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Old 12-05-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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Universal bans work reasonably well elsewhere. They can certainly be beaten...but the general ban of say hand guns could vastly reduce their availability and up the cost. That would cut down on gun crime.
Universal Bans work? Where? Please dont say Australia...
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Got a source for that? Love to see it. Don't expect to.
Wow what rock did you just climb out from under.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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All laws pertaining to weapons of any kind, are unconstitutional. Government gets no say in what we keep & bear.

and that Shall not be infringed.
True, but they have. They have slowly infringed upon our rights, not just 2a.. But we digress.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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1). Federal concealed carry permits on a shall issue basis, meaning that unless you are restricted from owning a firearm for legal reasons you will be issued a CCW that is recognized in every state.

2). Remove the restriction on nonviolent felons owning a firearm once they have served their sentence.

3). Mandated firearms safety courses in public schools, starting with basic safety in elementary school and culminating with function and operation in high school.

4). Life imprisonment with no parole for anyone who isconvicted of a violent crime using a firearm.

There are a few laws that would help.
i can go along with those laws.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Maine
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I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question, how many of you think it's a good idea to allow the government to maintain a secret list of citizens they have decided are not worthy of having constitutional rights, without any due process?

bill
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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So Could I.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question, how many of you think it's a good idea to allow the government to maintain a secret list of citizens they have decided are not worthy of having constitutional rights, without any due process?

bill
i think its a bad idea for the government to be maintaining secret lists of any kind period, let alone so called watch lists for what ever reason.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question, how many of you think it's a good idea to allow the government to maintain a secret list of citizens they have decided are not worthy of having constitutional rights, without any due process?

bill
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i think its a bad idea for the government to be maintaining secret lists of any kind period, let alone so called watch lists for what ever reason.
Could not agree more, if a person is that much of a threat, arrest them for what ever crimes they have committed.
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Old 12-05-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question, how many of you think it's a good idea to allow the government to maintain a secret list of citizens they have decided are not worthy of having constitutional rights, without any due process?

bill
Different topic, Start a new thread. And they already have one.. No fly list for example... Thats in the open.
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Old 12-05-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Different topic, Start a new thread. And they already have one.. No fly list for example... Thats in the open.
Post 11 of this thread calls for not allowing persons on the no fly list to buy guns. This is a blatant abuse of the second amendment, So no this is not a different topic.
So I ask again is anyone here OK with this? are you also OK with removing persons on the no fly list rights to free speech or freedom of religion?

bill
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