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Old 12-17-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It should offended every black American! I would feel less than a person if my own government confirmed, I could never make it in life without them keeping me enslaved to the government. So why try and make it.

Today, Blacks in high places, are not required to be the best they can. They are required to be black.
That is what affirmative action has brought us. Look at the President and his racist wife, for proof of this.
Affirmative Action, made it all the way to the Whitehouse requirements
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Actually, it's proof we have a democratic system, You oppose that because?
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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This is at best hair splitting, but mostly just gibberish, and not really worth responding to. Go ahead and put your head back in the sand. There is nothing here for you.
In other words, you cannot come up with an intelligent response. No surprise there.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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It should offended every black American! I would feel less than a person if my own government confirmed, I could never make it in life without them keeping me enslaved to the government. So why try and make it.

Today, Blacks in high places, are not required to be the best they can. They are required to be black.
That is what affirmative action has brought us. Look at the President and his racist wife, for proof of this.
Affirmative Action, made it all the way to the Whitehouse requirements.
And again, please. This is what people convince themselves of when they don't want to admit to their chosen mediocrity. What many fail to realize is that many people in high places have to perform to get ahead - regardless of background. In certain professional schools, exams are anonymous.

Law school is a great example. That means that the President and his wife had to perform.

Affirmative action has brought us people who want an excuse to whine and complain about what they believe others are receiving rather than to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. WhIle they are busy speculating and making assumptions about what others are supposedly receiving, those same people are working and surpassing them. Then they want to complain out of jealousy. Learn to WORK.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Uh; to be fair, Obama DID win POTUS, fair and square.
I think the point is, that if Obama had been white we would still be trying to recall his name.
Same as if Larry Bird had been black.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:50 PM
 
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And again, please. This is what people convince themselves of when they don't want to admit to their chosen mediocrity. What many fail to realize is that many people in high places have to perform to get ahead - regardless of background. In certain professional schools, exams are anonymous.

Law school is a great example. That means that the President and his wife had to perform.

Affirmative action has brought us people who want an excuse to whine and complain about what they believe others are receiving rather than to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. WhIle they are busy speculating and making assumptions about what others are supposedly receiving, those same people are working and surpassing them. Then they want to complain out of jealousy. Learn to WORK.
I can see both sides of this. Yeah, you definitely have to perform to get where you're at. And I believe that when you're black AND better than most at your job, you'll be one of the few minorities there. But I think AA is pushed hard enough to where employers feel pressured to add minorities so that they don't appear racist. At the end of the day, that's a double edged sword. I don't want a handout because I'm black. I have my job now because I'm better at it than most, not because I'm black. I can go to school for free because of what I accomplished and what many others can do themselves, not because I'm black. If someone offers me something just for being black, I will always turn it down.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:52 PM
 
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Over 70 Black Campus Groups Plan More Protests

....sounds reasonable, why not? Free stuff for all minorities because of slavery or something.
Are they willing to negotiate? I say we start with telling them they are all deported and their citizenship revoked. And then maybe we can meet in the middle where they work and pay their own tuition like everyone else.

Oh, and BTW we will be ending all affirmative action in college acceptance so they can take their crayons and 3rd grade reading skills to state colleges and leave the best colleges to the smartest students like it should be.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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I can see both sides of this. Yeah, you definitely have to perform to get where you're at. And I believe that when you're black AND better than most at your job, you'll be one of the few minorities there. But I think AA is pushed hard enough to where employers feel pressured to add minorities so that they don't appear racist. At the end of the day, that's a double edged sword. I don't want a handout because I'm black. I have my job now because I'm better at it than most, not because I'm black. I can go to school for free because of what I accomplished and what many others can do themselves, not because I'm black. If someone offers me something just for being black, I will always turn it down.
I see both sides as well. However, to assume how someone obtained a certain position and specifically to assume, that it was not via their hard work but rather their color, is asinine.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:28 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I see both sides as well. However, to assume how someone obtained a certain position and specifically to assume, that it was not via their hard work but rather their color, is asinine.
Which is why AA should be abolished. With it, there's always a doubt whether it was merit or AA that got them there.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:24 AM
 
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Which is why AA should be abolished. With it, there's always a doubt whether it was merit or AA that got them there.
Agreed and HOW!

OTOH: I doubt there's any "AA" for pro basketball; either you hit the basket or you don't and, lots of Black dudes can play some serious ball so they get the goodies. It is what it is.
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Old 12-18-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Agreed and HOW!

OTOH: I doubt there's any "AA" for pro basketball; either you hit the basket or you don't and, lots of Black dudes can play some serious ball so they get the goodies. It is what it is.
Exactly.
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