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Old 12-08-2015, 01:51 AM
mm4
 
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Hitler's Germany barely fits the definition, if at all.
Who shows up at "Socialist Workers Party" functions? (Hint: Not the Tee-Partei.) Hitler was a socialist.

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Hitler hated Communists.
The left historically turns on the left: Brezhnev vs. Mao, Shining Path vs. MRTA, UNITA vs. MPLA, Vietnam vs. Democratic Kampuchea, Bloomberg vs. Occupy, Quan vs. Occupy,.... It's routine.

 
Old 12-08-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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Terrorism is not just any old violence or war.

All terrorist acts have five things in common.

1) They target unarmed civilian "soft targets" in random public places -- men, women and children -- who are killed indiscriminately and brutally. They depend on their potential targets' not being able to predict where they might strike. So an attack on an abortion clinic doesn't qualify.

2) They are carried out to accomplish a political or ideological goal.

3) The group carrying out the terrorist act is too weak to effectively win a war or succeed in a revolution, and unlikely to win an election. Terrorism operates from a position of weakness, not strength. Accordingly, it preys on the weak, not the strong.

4) The terrorist act is designed to "spread terror" and fear throughout a civilian population, in the hopes that the terrified population will demand that their leaders comply with terrorist demands.

5) Terrorism depends on publicity -- the more graphic and pervasive, the better.

It really doesn't take a lot of research to understand the distinction between terrorism and other forms of violence. You learn to recognize that distinction after years of analyzing terrorist acts.

Of course, liberals want to confuse the issue as much as possible.

For example, by acting as though there are as many Timothy McVeighs and abortion clinic bombers out there as there are Islamic terrorists.
Wrong attacks on abortion clinics do meet the criteria, you simply do not want to admit it.


Not always, I see no goal accomplished in Cal.


Too weak to win a war? Is that why most of Syria and Northern Iraq is in their hands and no one seems to be able to remove them? Did you forget Iran?


Yes it is meant to spread fear and meant to get people to change their societies, it has never been meant to get the government to give in to any demands, most of the time no demands are even being made. The point is to instill fear and with some it seems to be doing exactly that.


Yes, in that you are correct and by us talking about it constantly they have accomplished that goal.


That was too confusing for you?


No one is saying that the McVeighs and Abortion clinic bombers and shooters are all that normal but they do exist and for you to ignore that fact makes your comments suspect in their agenda.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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Who shows up at "Socialist Workers Party" functions? (Hint: Not the Tee-Partei.) Hitler was a socialist.


The left historically turns on the left: Brezhnev vs. Mao, Shining Path vs. MRTA, UNITA vs. MPLA, Vietnam vs. Democratic Kampuchea, Bloomberg vs. Occupy, Quan vs. Occupy,.... It's routine.
Not the kind of Socialist you seem to believe he was. He was also a Nationalist, you know like most right-wingers. True those that lean far left do attend those sorts of rallies and those that tend to lean right attend Tea Party events and back deadbeats with guns point at LEO's when the government says you have to remove your cattle for not paying your lease payments.


Sort of true, lots of righties here absolutely LOVE Putin, so much for that thought.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Who shows up at "Socialist Workers Party" functions? (Hint: Not the Tee-Partei.) Hitler was a socialist.


The left historically turns on the left: Brezhnev vs. Mao, Shining Path vs. MRTA, UNITA vs. MPLA, Vietnam vs. Democratic Kampuchea, Bloomberg vs. Occupy, Quan vs. Occupy,.... It's routine.
I recommend you read a good book called "The Nazi Seizure of Power" by William Sheridan Allen.


Maybe then you will see where you went wrong.


Is the No-Nothing Party coming back
 
Old 12-08-2015, 08:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wrong attacks on abortion clinics do meet the criteria, you simply do not want to admit it.


Terrorism is a catch all for violence.

You could terrorize me easily.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm just saying what needs to be done.

You seem to be very annoyed by that.
Any what exactly needs to be done beyond making vague comments on the internet?
 
Old 12-08-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, our enemies are Islamists (Muslims) -- AND the Muslim-apologist Democrats/liberals/progressives/leftists who wish to disarm law-abiding Americans so that they can be murdered with impunity by those Muslims.

They (the Muslims and the liberals) are the enemy.

The enemy from without, AND the enemy from within (the latter being the more dangerous...)

The people must rise up and destroy them...without mercy.
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Any what exactly needs to be done beyond making vague comments on the internet?

Ya, that was just vague enough, to have code written all in it.


I got the message loud and clear, like preaching to the choir.

Are you asking how do people rise up. I heard a call to arms, from several high ranking individuals.
Or are you asking to define, how to destroy without mercy?
I heard carpet bombing, from one with the power to make it happen.


Personally I'd like to hear your ideas, to see where we differ, from one another.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Those who so desperately try and label those who have beliefs that are different than theirs as Nazi's really need to take a break and get more of a life.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 06:11 PM
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Not the kind of Socialist you seem to believe he was. He was also a Nationalist, you know like most right-wingers. True those that lean far left do attend those sorts of rallies and those that tend to lean right attend Tea Party events and back deadbeats with guns point at LEO's when the government says you have to remove your cattle for not paying your lease payments.


Sort of true, lots of righties here absolutely LOVE Putin, so much for that thought.
"Nationalist" is a wholly made-up leftist term after progressives couldn't figure out how to deny that Hitler led a Socialist Workers Party.

It's as "Nationalist" as National Abortion Rights Action League, National Organization for Women, National Public Radio.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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"Nationalist" is a wholly made-up leftist term after progressives couldn't figure out how to deny that Hitler led a Socialist Workers Party.

It's as "Nationalist" as National Abortion Rights Action League, National Organization for Women, National Public Radio.
And yet we hear right wingers use that term all the time, who knew it was a made up leftist term.
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