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Old 12-06-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Obama is very guilty of crony capitalism yet you support him.

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Prove it.

Oh wait, you can't.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Which terrorists? The ones in Europe or the ones in the Americas?
US citizens protected by the First and Second Amendments.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Seems like plenty are living alongside others with no Sharia law whatsoever.
That is because Muslims are not the majority here, YET. Obama is working on that though.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:36 PM
 
Location: california
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I wonder if any conservative here can propose a way to keep terrorists from getting guns...
Teach good tax paying citizens to correctly handle guns and provide centers for learning an practicing .
Promote good safe gun control practices, with a clear understanding of personal safety and public responsibility ,and carry at all times.
Government provide ammo and range masters. with special credit for NRA pistol fire B-16/2= 25 yard 10 ring 10 shot black outs.
Including regular public competition and in school training 8th grade and up.
just for starters.
You see that a community that is well trained presents more of a threat to a terrorist than a community of sheep.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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Obama is very guilty of crony capitalism yet you support him.

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And how does praising a President for being a competent speaker equate to political allegiance? I think Trump is great at speaking too, but that doesn't mean I share his positions. You have no idea who I support. Don't assume anything.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Obama has become so predictable. I know what his speech is going to contain before he does.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, but it seems like conservatives do. They expect Obama to prevent all terrorism but what exactly are the means to do so? Remember, Mr. Farook was a US citizen and thus had the same Constitutional rights we expect for all. So are you conceding that there is absolutely nothing Obama or anybody could have done to prevent this attack!
I never said or implied that Obama or anyone else could have prevented this.

In fact I'm saying that no gun law would have prevented Farook from buying those guns.

He was a citizen with no criminal record and was on no list.

You're shooting the breeze with your "we need stricter gun laws".

The pattern that these terrorists have uncovered is that they take trips to ME countries.
Then they come back and *BLAMO*....terrorist attack.

There's your pattern that you need to watch.
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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Donald J. Trump response to Obama's speech
29 mins

Is that all there is? We need a new President - FAST!
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Az.
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mind numbing crap he spewed but no surprise there
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Old 12-06-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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Very happy with the direction we are taking and very happy Obama is leading the charge.

He, along with our military, is smart enough to know that another ground war is not the answer. He also knows that efforts that do not directly kill ISIS leaders and followers will only help with their recruitment.


Additionally, no guns for people that are not allowed to fly makes good logical sense. If you are too dangerous to fly, you're certainly too dangerous to have a gun.
According to USA Today & Newsweek .....

More than 47,000 people were on the no-fly list in August 2013, including about 800 Americans, according to a leak to the Intercept news media site. “The documents also showed that in August 2013, there were 680,000 people on the government’s master terrorism watchlist,” the American Civil Liberties Union noted, and “even according to the government’s own records, 280,000 of them have no affiliation with a recognized terrorist group.”

Four years earlier, there were a million people on the terrorist watch list, according to figures gathered by USA Today, which cited the FBI and office of the Director of National Intelligence as sources. The two numbers could not be immediately reconciled. But they revealed problems in keeping accurate entries. Between 2007 and 2009, 51,000 people filed “redress” complaints that they were wrongly put on the watch list, according to the Department of Homeland Security. “In the vast majority of cases reviewed so far,” USA Today reported, “it has turned out that the petitioners were not actually on the list, with most having been misidentified at airports because their names resembled others on it.”


Simple Math indicates that the US Terror List (down now from 1 Million to a mere 680,000 in 2013) is a bigger Target to go after than the TeamObama Controlled "No Fly List".

He never mentioned the Terror List - perhaps he doesn't have a Lois Lerner in charge of that List - although he does have John Brennan.
Does nobody wonder why Obama didn't talk about the Terror List? Can we trust him to not use the No Fly List for Political Purposes to punish his Political Enemies ..... especially since he shut down the IRS Investigation and used the DOJ to go after Journalists (Associated Press & Fox News) that he doesn't like?

I don't think so. We already know we can't trust him OR the DOJ and US Attorney General.
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