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No it was actually done in the name of Irish nationalism vs those how wished to remain British.
Well this post definitely proves the point of this thread! Never a Christian terrorist, "that terrorist was not a Christian," apologetic tactic is always used.
Below is a synopsis of this terror:
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The Provisional IRA is perhaps the best known terrorist agency from the period and would definitely earn their spot on this list, if I weren’t aiming for more obscure groups, but the Catholic Reaction Force and Protestant Action Force were also active and, in the case of the latter, also responsible for a large number of murders. For those who are unfamiliar with the Troubles, it occurred in North Ireland and, as so many European conflicts do, pitted Protestants against Catholics in unmitigated bloodshed. The CRF was behind the Darkley killings, in addition to several mailed bombings in the early 2000s. The PAF, which was far more effective in their killings, has a rap sheet a mile long. You can find it on the Wikipedia page, here.
The Irish issue was not about one group of Christians thinking they were right about religion and therefore killing everyone else.
"Catholic" and "Protestant" were proxies for "Free Ireland" and "Member of the British Commonwealth Ireland"
The Troubles weren't about the catholics and the Anglicans hating each other. It was about Irish people wanting the British out and to have their own independent nation. period.
The catholics were the native Irish. The Protestants were decedents of English settlers that were sent there by the British Crown in the previous centuries for the express purpose of breeding the Irish out of Ireland.
come on people.
We are really trying to make equivalence arguments between the vast extent of muslim terrorism and violence and the Irish Troubles that was very much limited to a conflict over the independence of a single very small nation?
The Irish issue was not about one group of Christians thinking they were right about religion and therefore killing everyone else.
"Catholic" and "Protestant" were proxies for "Free Ireland" and "Member of the British Commonwealth Ireland"
The Troubles weren't about the catholics and the Anglicans hating each other. It was about Irish people wanting the British out and to have their own independent nation. period.
The catholics were the native Irish. The Protestants were decedents of English settlers that were sent there by the British Crown in the previous centuries for the express purpose of breeding the Irish out of Ireland.
come on people.
We are really trying to make equivalence arguments between the vast extent of muslim terrorism and violence and the Irish Troubles that was very much limited to a conflict over the independence of a single very small nation?
REALLY?
Yes really. People are intent to PROVE that there are religious christian terrorist organizations just as bad as the ME terrorist groups so we shouldn't worry too much.
Yes really. People are intent to PROVE that there are religious christian terrorist organizations just as bad as the ME terrorist groups so we shouldn't worry too much.
its the old "squirrels eat nuts therefore lions are vegitarians" argument I suppose.
Has anyone else noticed how the uber-extreme (bleeding heart) liberals in here are falling over themselves to avoid labeling terrorism as being mostly Islamic, while at the same time derailing the thread as they stretch their belief in non-existent Christian terrorism? ...SNAFU ideology pushing without missing a beat.
Focus on the handful of things which happened decades or centuries ago, while ignoring what is happening right now.
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its the old "squirrels eat nuts therefore lions are vegitarians" argument I suppose.
The scary thing is they actually believe their nonsense.
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We are really trying to make equivalence arguments between the vast extent of muslim terrorism and violence and the Irish Troubles that was very much limited to a conflict over the independence of a single very small nation?
REALLY?
Sorry, but that is how progressive minds work. They don't want to offend Muslims, yet have no problem offending Christians in the process. They are by definition a contradiction wrapped in a hypocrisy.
The killer in Colorado was a Christian Terrorist and the OK Bombing was also committed by Christian Terrorists not to mention the IRA in Ireland, the war in Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia, along with several cases of Christians attacking those they feel are a threat or different parts of the world namely Africa.
You forgot the Olympic Bomber in Atlanta, 1996. HE was part of a Christian separatist group.
I also do not recall any Muslims or Buddhists bombing abortion clinics in America, though both faiths oppose abortion.
You forgot the Olympic Bomber in Atlanta, 1996. HE was part of a Christian separatist group.
I also do not recall any Muslims or Buddhists bombing abortion clinics in America, though both faiths oppose abortion.
Eric Rudolph was raised in a "Christian Identity" compound called "The Church of Israel" but he did not commit the criminal act in the name of Christianity:
"In a statement released after he entered a guilty plea, Rudolph denied being a supporter of the Christian Identity movement, claiming that his involvement amounted to a brief association with the daughter of a Christian Identity adherent, later identified as Pastor Daniel Gayman. When asked about his religion he said, "I was born a Catholic, and with forgiveness I hope to die one." In other written statements, Rudolph has cited Biblical passages and offered religious motives for his militant opposition to abortion.
Rudolph's actions are not now considered to be religiously motivated, as he wrote "Many good people continue to send me money and books. Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."
Religious beliefs
After his parents' divorce, McVeigh lived with his father; his sisters moved to Florida with their mother. He and his father were devout Roman Catholics who often attended daily Mass. In a recorded interview with Time Magazine McVeigh professed his belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "never really picked it [back] up". The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter claiming to be an agnostic. He was given the Catholic sacrament of Viaticum before his execution.
James Holmes' history has absolutely no discussion of religious affiliation or fixation and nothing about his murder relates to religion being a motivation.
I just realized you were referring to the recent shooting in CO. There has been no definitive proof that Dear was motivated by religion. In fact, the overarching evidence is that Dear is mentally ill and that was the reason behind his murder spree. Psychosis.
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