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If the solution was to, say, actually do something about it, even some skeptics of the wild claims would agree. But asking for money with out an actual plan to do something, it's a scam.
I have complained that much of the "evidence" of climate change relies on supposed happenings in areas where few people live, such as the high Arctic. If major cities were experiencing warming they'd be showing those statistics. The fact is that you never hear that New York City warmed by "X" degrees in "Y" period or that London warmed "P" degrees in "Q" period. I have often wondered if there was hard evidence, other than extrapolated or adjusted evidence from other areas.
I am now going to quote, in full, a public document (thus not copyright protected) prepared by the American consul at Bergen, Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D. C., under date of October 10, 1922) concerning "warming" in the high Arctic, in 1922 (link to NOAA Archives):
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Originally Posted by American consul at Bergen, Norway
American consul at Bergen, Norway on October 10, 1922]
[Under date of October 10,1922, the American consul at Bergen, Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D. C.]
NOVEMBER, 1922. MONTHLY WEATHER REVIEW. (Page) 589 (of the journal)
THE CHANGING ARCTIC.
By GEORGE NICOLAS IFFT'.
[Under date of October 10,1922, the American consul at Bergen, Norway, submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D. C.)
The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas
about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth's surface.
In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitsbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Ado1f Hoel, lecturer on geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.
Dr. Hoel, who has just returned, reports the location of hitherto unknown coal deposits on the eastern shores of Advent Bay-deposits of vast extent and superior quality. This is regarded as of first importance, as so far most of the coal mined by the Norwegian companies on those islands has not been of the best quality.
The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptiontional. In fact, so little ice never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81 degrees 29' in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus. The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been ractically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81' north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time.
Later a section was taken of the Gulf Stream off Bear Island and off the Isfjord, as well as a section of the cold current that comes down along the west coast of Spitzbergen off the south cape to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who
has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1865 to 1917.
Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.
The change in temperature, says Captain Ingebrigtsen has also brought about great change in the flora and fauna of the Arctic. This summer he sought for white fish in Spitzbergen waters. Formerly great shoals of them were found there. This year he saw none, although he visited all the old fishing grounds.
There were few seal in Spitzbergen waters this year, the catch being far under the average. This, however, did not surprise the captain. He pointed out that formerly the waters about Spitzbergen held an even summer temperature of about 3° Celsius; tIns year recorded temperatures up to 15°, and last winter the ocean did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.
With the disappearance of white fish and seal has come other life in these waters. This year herring in great shoals were found along the west coast of Spitzbergen, all the way from the fry to the veritable great herring.
If the solution was to, say, actually do something about it, even some skeptics of the wild claims would agree. But asking for money with out an actual plan to do something, it's a scam.
Worlds away, in plush hotel conference rooms in Paris, London, New York and Washington, Tony A. deBrum, the foreign minister of the Marshall Islands, tells the stories of men like Mr. Anej to convey to more powerful policy makers the peril facing his island nation in the Pacific as sea levels rise — and to shape the legal and financial terms of a major United Nationsclimate change accord now being negotiated in Paris.
Mr. deBrum’s focus is squarely on the West’s wallets — recouping “loss and damage,†in negotiators’ parlance, for the destruction wrought by the rich nations’ industrial might on the global environment.
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The debate over loss and damage has been intense because the final language of the Paris accord could require developed countries, first and foremost the United States, to give billions of dollars to vulnerable countries like the Marshall Islands.
The New York Time is staunchly in favor of this "pact." The government of the Marshall Islands and other countries have now scammed the West, in particular the U.S. for very big checks. Obama gets to feel good and generous. I wind up with a smaller paycheck.
It should be of concern to everybody, that the past predictions (which were used to drive policy), about major things involving climate change, have turned out to be not only wrong, but the opposite of what we have observed.
Usually this means there is something wrong with the theory, and adjustments are made, or the theory dropped. (my personal opinion is that the theory has to be changed, it's just wrong)
The predictions which have happened multiple times now, from multiple sources, about the complete loss of arctic sea ice in the summer, is the most obvious example.
Some areas seem to experience more of an impact, increase in sea level and impact of warming on the salmon fisheries.
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International leaders gathering in Paris to address global warming face increasing pressure to tackle the issue of "climate refugees." Some island nations are already looking to move their people to higher ground, even purchasing land elsewhere in preparation.
In the U.S. Northwest, sea-level rise is forcing a Native American tribe to consider abandoning lands it has inhabited for thousands of years.
The Quinault Indian Nation, whose small village lies at the mouth of the Quinault River on the outer coast of Washington's Olympic Peninsula, now relies on a 2,000-foot-long sea wall to protect it from the encroaching Pacific Ocean.
The Quinault Indian Nation, whose small village lies at the mouth of the Quinault River on the outer coast of Washington's Olympic Peninsula, now relies on a 2,000-foot-long sea wall to protect it from the encroaching Pacific Ocean.
Actually, the ignorant "handful of whack-job" deniers are all located in the United States. The rest of the world understands science. How embarrassing for the U.S. to have such ignorance continually on display.
Thanks for your attention. We're definitely out here and you can't touch us! LOL
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