Why Obama uses "ISIL" (terrorist, support, propaganda, 2015)

[katygirl68]

Originally Posted by GreenGene

Let's review.

Most people use ISIS.

ISIL is the more accurate acronym.

But if the President uses ISIL (even though it's more accurate) he's being .... what? Uppity?

Gee, that's not a very subtle jab.

I'll use ISIL. It's more accurate, and it has the added bonus of pissing people off. A win-win.

It's not accurate. It's what the group calls themselves. Why give them any respect or legitimacy in their claim over the entire region? Why not call them the name they detest, that gives them no legitimacy in their claims at all?

I personally have a different take on why he calls them ISIL. It's because to call them ISIS implies that the issue is about Syria, which was entirely during his time in office. ISIL does not include Syria in the name.

Since Daesh pisses the terrorists off, we wouldn't want to use that term, right? You'd rather just **** people off here in America. That makes sense from an Obama supporter.

[Ultor]

Originally Posted by GreenGene

I'll use ISIL. It's more accurate, and it has the added bonus of pissing people off. A win-win.

Yes, it is a more accurate description of the terrorists intent and I think you and Obama are on the same page in your intent.

[FrankMiller]

Originally Posted by Ultor

After the Paris attack, Kerry made a HUGE deal out of calling them Daesh.

You have to question why Obama still calls them by the only name from the list that legitimizes their "claim" over Israel.

You want to call them ISIS because it legitimizes their claim to Iraq and Syria?

[oldtoiletsmkgdflrpots]

Back to the use of "isil"...this might be why he doesn't say DAESH: What does Daesh mean? ISIS 'threatens to cut out the tongues' of anyone using this word - Mirror Online

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by veezybell

Very interesting article. I found this part to be particularly eye-opening:



Why Obama Says ISIL Instead of ISIS | TruthLamp

We should call them Daesh. They don't like that very much.

Because we have already agree to cede the territory ?

[Ultor]

Originally Posted by FrankMiller

You want to call them ISIS because it legitimizes their claim to Iraq and Syria?

At this point, their control in Iraq and Syria is a fait accompli... so rather than encourage them with ISIL, why doesn't Obama insult them with Daesh?

[Ultor]

Originally Posted by oldtoiletsmkgdflrpots

Back to the use of "isil"...this might be why he doesn't say DAESH: What does Daesh mean? ISIS 'threatens to cut out the tongues' of anyone using this word - Mirror Online

LOL! The first comment in your link has the perfect name... Daeshbags.

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by Ultor

At this point, their control in Iraq and Syria are a fait accompli... so rather than encourage them with ISIL, why doesn't Obama insult them with Daesh?

Well why the Levant?

Levant | Definition of Levant by Merriam-Webster
Definition of Levant

1. the countries bordering on the E Mediterranean

That's Lebanon, Israel...



Germany wanted all of Europe. Should we have called them Europe because of their idealogical goal?


ISIS was the appropriate name for the regime all along.

[Packard fan]

Uh; I WON'T use "Isis" when talking about those Islamist pigs tearing up Iraq and Syria because it's a good girl's name.

I DO like "IS" and I REALLY like daesh!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ8jnrjMvC8

[TheDusty]

I always assumed Obama called them ISIL because that's they're official name. But I guess I was wrong. Turns out it was some crazy cryptic message about how Israel isn't valid, though how we got that out of the term 'the Levant' is also pretty cryptic and unclear.