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Old 12-15-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Well we can't profile so just let the terrorists in.



Exactly we can't profile we can't do this we can't do that with all this politically correct crap is what it is.


Priorities have gotten screwed up with this current administration ironic what should be considered right is now wrong, and what is wrong, is correct.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exactly we can't profile we can't do this we can't do that with all this politically correct crap is what it is.


Priorities have gotten screwed up with this current administration ironic what should be considered right is now wrong, and what is wrong, is correct.
The Trojan Horses are lining up for entry into the US.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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But she did post something that should have been caught if immigration officials were allowed to check social media.

Malik messaged Facebook friends about her support for jihad, sources say - LA Times
San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik sent at least two private messages on Facebook to a small group of Pakistani friends in 2012 and 2014, pledging her support for Islamic jihad and saying she hoped to join the fight one day
Private messages. As in not something immediately obvious by reading their Facebook wall. So is the government supposed to require Facebook and every other social media platform to turn over the private info and communications of everyone with an Arabic sounding name who comes into the country so they can dig through their private messages and their posts on other peoples' messages? And what if they post under another name and tell immigration officials they don't have any social media accounts? Even the official quoted in the story mentioned this problem.

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“It is also a fact, and I'm not speaking about this specific case, that many people disguise their identities on social media. It's also a fact that many of them have in place privacy settings that would prohibit a consular officer from being able to see much of anything in terms of content on their social media platform,” he added.
Very few social media sites require any kind of actual account verification. My mom has no Facebook account. I could get on and create one for her. Hell, every time there's a high-profile shooting where the perp didn't have a Facebook account, someone rushes to create one as soon as their name comes out just to troll the media.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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What color is the sky in your little world?



Facebook alone has over 1.5 billion active accounts. They estimate anywhere from 6-12% are fake, but that still leaves an awful lot of legitimate accounts. You think there are people actively looking over all of them? Is someone supposed to just pick out the potential terrorists? Based on what? There are even prison inmates posting on Facebook using smartphones they're not even supposed to have. And that's just ONE social media platform. There are a lot of others.

If someone shows themselves to be a potential terrorist then by all means their social media accounts should be investigated. But expecting to just pick out terrorists on social media is absurd.
Too bad FB does non of that. ISIS and other groups actively use FB and have been for years. We have the technology to scan EVERY SINGLE page for key words then identify the user. It is easy stuff to do. Why are we not doing it?
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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Private messages. As in not something immediately obvious by reading their Facebook wall. So is the government supposed to require Facebook and every other social media platform to turn over the private info and communications of everyone with an Arabic sounding name who comes into the country so they can dig through their private messages and their posts on other peoples' messages? And what if they post under another name and tell immigration officials they don't have any social media accounts? Even the official quoted in the story mentioned this problem.



Very few social media sites require any kind of actual account verification. My mom has no Facebook account. I could get on and create one for her. Hell, every time there's a high-profile shooting where the perp didn't have a Facebook account, someone rushes to create one as soon as their name comes out just to troll the media.
You have no idea about cyber security at all. IP's can be traced to an ISP then right to the location where the post came from. All FB has to do is MONITOR their OWN software. They absolutely CAN do this it's very simple to do. Private messages are only private to the public, FB can see them on the inside.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Private messages. As in not something immediately obvious by reading their Facebook wall. So is the government supposed to require Facebook and every other social media platform to turn over the private info and communications of everyone with an Arabic sounding name who comes into the country so they can dig through their private messages and their posts on other peoples' messages? And what if they post under another name and tell immigration officials they don't have any social media accounts? Even the official quoted in the story mentioned this problem.



Very few social media sites require any kind of actual account verification. My mom has no Facebook account. I could get on and create one for her. Hell, every time there's a high-profile shooting where the perp didn't have a Facebook account, someone rushes to create one as soon as their name comes out just to troll the media.
The NSA is tapped into the backbone. They get all data, public and private.
They don't have to ask anyone for it.

Why kind of cyber security do you do that you don't know this ?
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You have no idea about cyber security at all. IP's can be traced to an ISP then right to the location where the post came from. All FB has to do is MONITOR their OWN software. They absolutely CAN do this it's very simple to do. Private messages are only private to the public, FB can see them on the inside.
And the NSA can see it all as well.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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And the NSA can see it all as well.
Yes they can, but so can FB and they aren't reporting it. If they can find an obscure so-called racist post and shut down their page, then they are monitoring, but not for this???? Also, I don't even know why FB is allowed to stay up. They shut down the back channels of Craigs List when TWO people got stalked and killed. Here FB is being used to incite violence, get people killed and recruiting of terrorists and it's allowed to stay?
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes they can, but so can FB and they aren't reporting it. If they can find an obscure so-called racist post and shut down their page, then they are monitoring, but not for this???? Also, I don't even know why FB is allowed to stay up. They shut down the back channels of Craigs List when TWO people got stalked and killed. Here FB is being used to incite violence, get people killed and recruiting of terrorists and it's allowed to stay?
Yup, I agree.

Saying "Black women are ugly" gets tagged right away, source found and punished.

Saying your going to align with ISIS and hope to join them one day can't be found until after an attack ?

I ain't buying it.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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You have no idea about cyber security at all. IP's can be traced to an ISP then right to the location where the post came from. All FB has to do is MONITOR their OWN software. They absolutely CAN do this it's very simple to do. Private messages are only private to the public, FB can see them on the inside.
If you think there aren't ways to disguise your IP address, you're the one who knows nothing.

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The NSA is tapped into the backbone. They get all data, public and private.
They don't have to ask anyone for it.

Why kind of cyber security do you do that you don't know this ?
The fact that you think the NSA has access to absolutely everything and apparently are comfortable with it scares me.
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