Congress Goes on Half a Trillion Dollar Spending Spree--Where Are The Mandatory Offsets the GOP Always Demands? (employment, Iraq)
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"On Capitol Hill this week, just hours before they jet away for the holidays, the GOP-led Congress is going on a $680 billion spending spree — none of which will be paid for by budget cuts or other tax offsets. And all of which will be added to the national debt, according to budget watchdogs."
Lots of goodies in this bill, with absolutely no offsets--something they have demanded of the president and the Democrats at every turn. And the GOP continues the laughable pretense that they care about the debt.
This is what happens with big government.
If you want responsible government, you need a much smaller government.
This was not horse trading. The Republicans put a lot of effort into getting the spending they wanted. And they are trying to say "But we had to because....Obama!"
No. The Republicans control this. If they really wanted to demonstrate that, they would have passed something and dared Obama to veto it and cause a shutdown. Instead? The focused on tax breaks for the rich, and spending more.
The tax break extensions alone were 680 billion.
Want a fun quote? From a Democrat:
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“I don’t think any of us are going to know what’s truly in it by the time it comes up [for a vote] Friday,” Rep. James P. McGovern, Massachusetts Democrat, chided his colleagues. He said those on both sides of the aisle are going to have to cast votes based on the statements of their leaders — putting them all in a tricky position.
Sound familiar? This is the Republicans "We have to pass it to see whats in it" moment.
No worries though, it does do some damage to the ACA as well by delaying some of the taxes that help pay for it.
Its fiscal insanity. And some of the stuff thats been tacked onto the bill are things that would have issues passing normally. The CISA spy act? Slipped in.
If you want responsible government, you need a much smaller government.
Please. If you want responsible government then elect responsible people. The Republicans own this one. So much for "pay for what you spend". Apparently it only applies when Democrats are running things.
Oh, please. This bill is chock full of tax cut goodies the Republicans wanted. The only thing they "compromised" on was their own rule that any new spending has to be offset by cuts somewhere else. Funny how that didn't even enter into this massive spending spree because the GOP was getting things they wanted.
But they continue to pretend that they're concerned about the debt, even while adding to it massively with nary an offset in sight. And you continue to believe them.
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when did tax cuts become spending? btw...tax cuts/credits dont COST anything
you cut the taxes a little, and revenue increases
so EXTENDING and adding tax cuts to the poor and middleclass is now called a spending spree??
Please. If you want responsible government then elect responsible people. The Republicans own this one.
Only if Obama vetoes it; otherwise, it's a big government problem.
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Originally Posted by greywar
So much for "pay for what you spend". Apparently it only applies when Democrats are running things.
Once again, you are wrong. It's a problem when both sides are running it - hence a big government problem.
If you want to debate this, I'd be more than happy to show you how both parties waste tax money on all sorts of things including supporting big business.
Is it your contention the Democrats aren't doing any of this?
Only if Obama vetoes it; otherwise, it's a big government problem.
Once again, you are wrong. It's a problem when both sides are running it - hence a big government problem.
If you want to debate this, I'd be more than happy to show you how both parties waste tax money on all sorts of things including supporting big business.
Is it your contention the Democrats aren't doing any of this?
Its my contention that the Republicans have the majority. Are you denying that suddenly?
And I bring this up because so many here keep going on with the Republicans will fix things nonsense.
This makes me absolutely furious! I have never seen anything remotely close to the complete lack of will to protect the middle class blue collar worker.
It's my contention that no matter which party is in charge, we continue to spend more money.
Please show me where I've ever said anything like "the Republicans will fix things".
Show me, but we all know you can't.
The only cheerleader here is you as you pretend it's a Republican issue while I maintain it's both sides.
"Raw, raw rhee, my party is for me, raw, raw ras your party can suck my...."
Keep cheering for your party as we swirl down the toilet.
Funny...its not all about you here you know? I dont have to show you where YOU said anything, just read here. many of your fellow conservatives say this.
I agree its both sides, but when the Republicans have the majority, they also bear the majority (but not all) of the responsibility.
If you want responsible government, you need a much smaller government.
Isn't that what Republicans are always claiming they are for each election?
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