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Old 12-23-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
In order to make $25k per year, combined, that means that if both of you worked for minimum wage, neither of you could work (averaged) more than 35 hours per week.

Either you don't work, or something doesn't add up.
Depending on the area of the country where someone lives, this is possible. This would be common in rural areas of KS.

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Poor people are their own worst enemy. They breed poverty.
No, they are taken advantage of more often than anything else. Look at the profits of some of the companies that they work for. They pay low wages to the employees and we, the taxpayers, supplement the company not the employee.

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You make $17K per year, and your wife makes $8K per year? What are your jobs? What's the COL where you live?


That's impressive? Do you pay for child care while your wife is working? Or do you watch the kids while she works and vice-versa?
This isn't that uncommon.

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No, the study didn't fail you at all. The study didn't say "All poor people do ......". It's about averages for the group.

Your failure is your own.
Who failed? I don't care for your thoughts on all of this. Pointing fingers at people whose situations you really don't understand. Please look at what Donald Trump is saying about the economy. We need jobs that pay a decent wage and that can be done. We need to remove people that have no right to be here and are sucking at the public assistance teat. The economy impacts families more than anything else.

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This stuff seems like it should be common sense, especially the lack of education and having too many kids. Just look at countries like Mexico and parts south America, there isn't as much access to education and with the catholic thing people just crank out too many kids.

Here if you're making 8 to 10 bucks an hour and you've got 4 kids, do the math. I just don't get how people make it. I've always made good money, high 5 figures and we have no kids and while we're not struggling we're not rich either, after you put money in savings, pay the bills there isn't a huge amount left over, how the hell do you feed, cloth and put a roof over 4 kids heads...IDK...
Speaking of Mexico and parts of south America, also central America, they have come here for us to raise their children and keep pro-creating in order to get more benefits from the public assistance teat. They are put a huge strain on what is available for our own citizens.

Average income where I live is about $35,000 a year. But, you have to take cost of living into consideration and most people don't get that. Also, many people value family over material possessions. They don't need to eat out, buy new cars, pay someone else to watch their kids, etc.

It always blows me away that everyone doesn't understand about cost of living. I have seen people fall on their face not understanding that.

You wouldn't want to live that way? Fine, but don't be critical of others.
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Old 12-23-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Many low-wage jobs are part time by employer design, e.g. to ensure employers do not have to pay overtime or Obamacare costs.
Retail employers have been doing that for 40 years or more. Has nothing to do with the ACA.
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Old 12-23-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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Hmm. Most single people I know are finandially doing great.
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Old 12-23-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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It's also a big reason why there has been such an effort to undermine the family structure and the morality that holds it together.
Who is undermining the family structure and morality? Most people live with morality even poor people. I think greed undermines family structures and usually the greed is coming from certain employers.
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Hmm. Most single people I know are finandially doing great.
Me too, but millions are not.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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In terms of the marriage aspect of this, it stands to reason that a dual income household obviously increases how much money a household has. However, you don't have to be married to have a dual income household. Two people can live together. Many people don't want to get married. Marriage is not the end all of problems. What if the marriage falls apart? Then we go back to a single income household.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Wait a minute OP! You mean don't have unprotected sex and children with someone you aren't married to? You mean don't drop out of high school, actually get a job, find a spouse with a job, and actually have children after you get married?? I'm sorry but there's just too much practicality and common sense here.
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Old 12-23-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Speaking of Mexico and parts of south America, also central America, they have come here for us to raise their children and keep pro-creating in order to get more benefits from the public assistance teat. They are put a huge strain on what is available for our own citizens.

Average income where I live is about $35,000 a year. But, you have to take cost of living into consideration and most people don't get that. Also, many people value family over material possessions. They don't need to eat out, buy new cars, pay someone else to watch their kids, etc.

It always blows me away that everyone doesn't understand about cost of living. I have seen people fall on their face not understanding that.

You wouldn't want to live that way? Fine, but don't be critical of others.
Not sure if you're addressing the bolded part to me or in general, but if you live in Southern California and you work as laborer on a construction site or fast food and you're only making 10 or 11 bucks an hour and you have 4 or more kids, you just can't hardly get by on that, that isn't my opinion it's just math, unless you're getting some kind of government assistance or hopefully assistance from the church. If someone is making 18 or 20k a yr there's no way they are paying enough into the system to offset the simple costs of schooling 4 kids, again this stuff is basic math.

People can do whatever they want within the law etc etc, but because I and other people have chosen to live within our financial means of course it gives one right to be critical of others when we're footing the bill through social welfare programs, that's the problem with getting free shyt, you're at the mercy of people being judgy, it's just the way the big cruel world works.

I'm a social liberal and more of a fiscal conservative.
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