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Old 12-23-2015, 06:12 AM
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He's right.

A head of family working at a factory back when could a support a family on that single income. Now, "American" corporations have given those jobs to communist Chinese workers. And jobs available to many today are crappy part-time, low wage positions.

Carry on.

Yes-

Thanks, in a great part, to Clinton's NAFTA and China trade policies. Throw in the high corporate taxes, EPA regulations, open borders with cheap labor, and litigation burden on American corporations (courtesy of further liberal policies) and you have a fast track to third world status.

Libs fail to understand that their policies have killed the US middle class and manufacturing sector.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Yes, and it really started with Reagonomics and has only intensified since. NAFTA was horrible, but the TPP is like a pumped up version even further diminishing national sovereignty and boundaries. ACA was written by insurance corporations, and has nothing to do with insuring affordable healthcare for Americans.

The goal is corporate economic hegemony, and Millions of Americans will join the ranks of the globally destitute. These detached megacorporations and banks that control our political process have new consumers to worry about in China India and Brazil and have new workers to exploit in Indonesia and Africa. Americans are old news as far as they're concerned. As far as I'm concerned nearly every President and politician in office the past 30 years has committed treason and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Yep.

And Clinton signed Bush's NAFTA into law.

And Obama who on several occasions made speeches blasting Trickle Down economics to the cheers of his sheep...while engaging in more trickle down than Reagan himself.

Every single fed pick Obama has made has been to a trickle down QE supporter big or small and QE trickle down didn't start until after Obama won in 2008 and met with Bernanke.

https://reason.com/archives/2012/09/13/occupy-the-fed

Trickle-down quantitative easing: James Saft | Reuters

Does Quantitative Easing Mainly Help the Rich?

If Obama opposed QE Trickle Down economics he could simply stop making every single Fed pick to a big or small post go to a QE supporter. Or do what Romney said he would do - fire them.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:44 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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There is absolutely no reason for these jobs to be in Mexico or China except to make the 1%, mostly hedge fund managers, rich beyond comprehension.
I've got news for you. It's not just the U.S. that has lost manufacturing jobs. China has lost even more manufacturing jobs than the U.S. has.

The reason is because robots have replaced those jobs.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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So what do you suggest our poor, less educated and unskilled Americans do for a living?
It's not a simple issue. But people have to do exactly what many people have been doing to thrive in the new economy - get into skilled trades, get college degrees and pursue high-demand careers such as STEM.

Just as the American economy was at one time manufacturing-based, today it is information-based and service-based. One has to change accordingly with the times.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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It's not a simple issue. But people have to do exactly what many people have been doing to thrive in the new economy - get into skilled trades, get college degrees and pursue high-demand careers such as STEM.
Even many of those jobs are attracting illegal aliens and h1b foreigners which does force wages DOWN.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:18 AM
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Location: Bran's tree
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Even many of those jobs are attracting illegal aliens and h1b foreigners which does force wages DOWN.
Or are offshored entirely...
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I've got news for you. It's not just the U.S. that has lost manufacturing jobs. China has lost even more manufacturing jobs than the U.S. has.

The reason is because robots have replaced those jobs.
And who builds the robots? You sound like Obama when he blamed ATMs for the slow economy.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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What blue-collared jobs that are left are being given to illegal aliens on our soil. it's a double whammy on the American worker. When will this madness end?
When you bring back regulation so that companies can't get away with paying illegal immigrants less than minimum wage. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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It's not a simple issue. But people have to do exactly what many people have been doing to thrive in the new economy - get into skilled trades, get college degrees and pursue high-demand careers such as STEM.

Just as the American economy was at one time manufacturing-based, today it is information-based and service-based. One has to change accordingly with the times.
Not everyone should go to college. Why not companies offer on the job training like they did during the industrial age?
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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You do know Presidents arent actually dictators right? And that the people with real power are int he house and senate.

People need to recognize that the blame goes on the house and the senate for the vast majority of our countries issues.
Except when Boosh was President because he was a dictator!

Boosh gets all the blame for the 2008 meltdown and so on.
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