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Old 12-24-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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Saddam Hussein is letting Iran "steal" oil? Hard to do when he is dead. Those "murderous regimes" kept the region calmer than it is now and the US had absolutely no problem dealing with them in arms and oil and anything else.
What do you know about this subject beyond what you've seen on MSNBC? The whole World deals in arms and oil with the Middle East. Saddam was cutting US oil companies out of the equation and we took him out because of it. Why is that so hard to understand? We fight wars over natural resources and so does every other nation on Earth. Always have, always will.

The difference between the US and every other country in the World is that we have the military necessary to win anyplace, anytime. We don't always use our armies to accomplish our goals, but we always can. Like the old saying goes... Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in the war.
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Saddam was cutting US oil companies out of the equation and we took him out because of it.
I wish that was the case but are US oil companies in Iraq now?
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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I wish that was the case but are US oil companies in Iraq now?
Yes. Heavily.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And people took Trump as a joke
Trump is a joke. He wants to use the same idiotic foreign policy and dispose countries leaders which allows the extremists to take over.
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Old 12-25-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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What do you know about this subject beyond what you've seen on MSNBC? The whole World deals in arms and oil with the Middle East. Saddam was cutting US oil companies out of the equation and we took him out because of it. Why is that so hard to understand? We fight wars over natural resources and so does every other nation on Earth. Always have, always will.

The difference between the US and every other country in the World is that we have the military necessary to win anyplace, anytime. We don't always use our armies to accomplish our goals, but we always can. Like the old saying goes... Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in the war.
Obviously the US does not have the military needed we turned Afghanistan AND Iraq into 2 more Vietnam's.
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Trump is a joke. He wants to use the same idiotic foreign policy and dispose countries leaders which allows the extremists to take over.
Um no he doesn't, he has said MANY times we were STUPID for going into Iraq.
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Trump is a joke. He wants to use the same idiotic foreign policy and dispose countries leaders which allows the extremists to take over.
If Trump is an idiot, Obama is the student of an idiot. He is doing what Trump said 2 years ago and still not doing it right.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Obviously the US does not have the military needed we turned Afghanistan AND Iraq into 2 more Vietnam's.

Um no he doesn't, he has said MANY times we were STUPID for going into Iraq.
Um yes he does. He has said MANY times we should have troops in the Middle East. He has said MANY times we should seize their oil. Gee I wonder if that's the reason we are there in the first place and the cause of the hatred toward America?

Bring the troops home and protect our borders like the Constitution says.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If Trump is an idiot, Obama is the student of an idiot. He is doing what Trump said 2 years ago and still not doing it right.
Obama is a bald faced liar. He said he would bring the troops home, that would be the first thing he'd do and you can take that to the bank. He lied. The only thing he took to the bank was our money to bail out his buddies.
Trump wants us involved with ground troops to combat ISIS and he wants us to stay over there and seize oil.
Committing our troops over oil instead of protection our borders like the Constitution says. Look at the new boss, same as the old boss. This has been going on for over 60 years and it has made us less safe.

When are people going to wake up and look at a failed policy instead of banking on rhetoric?
Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. When is boobus going to wake up?
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Iranian regime looting Iraqi oil refinery - expert
Following the defeat of the Daesh (ISIS) terrorists and their forced retreat from the city of Baiji in northern Iraq, the Iranian-led militias quickly took control of the area. As a result, the Baiji oil refinery, the biggest in Iraq, is currently being dismantled and transferred to Iran.

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In the past week, the Iraqi media reported that: “Iranian experts have reached the Baiji refinery and are busy dismantling the equipment. Everyday trucks are taking the equipment out of the Baiji refinery to Iran via Diyala Province”.

The systematic looting of the Baiji refinery follows the recent incursion of over 500,000 Iranians into Iraq, through the border at Zarbatiye, without passports or visas, in open violation of Iraqi sovereignty, on the pretext that they were on a religious pilgrimage. These events demonstrate clearly the Iranian regime’s intention completely to dominate and subjugate Iraq, a grave matter that threatens the stability and strategic balance of the region and endangers world peace and security.


Wow.

Religious pilgrimage, huh? Not so much...
FYI, ISIS is Sunni and Iran is Shiite. Iran is fighting ISIS.

http://www.ibtimes.com/iran-joins-ir...ration-1935572
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Iranian regime looting Iraqi oil refinery - expert
Following the defeat of the Daesh (ISIS) terrorists and their forced retreat from the city of Baiji in northern Iraq, the Iranian-led militias quickly took control of the area. As a result, the Baiji oil refinery, the biggest in Iraq, is currently being dismantled and transferred to Iran.

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In the past week, the Iraqi media reported that: “Iranian experts have reached the Baiji refinery and are busy dismantling the equipment. Everyday trucks are taking the equipment out of the Baiji refinery to Iran via Diyala Province”.

The systematic looting of the Baiji refinery follows the recent incursion of over 500,000 Iranians into Iraq, through the border at Zarbatiye, without passports or visas, in open violation of Iraqi sovereignty, on the pretext that they were on a religious pilgrimage. These events demonstrate clearly the Iranian regime’s intention completely to dominate and subjugate Iraq, a grave matter that threatens the stability and strategic balance of the region and endangers world peace and security.


Wow.

Religious pilgrimage, huh? Not so much...
Don't they know the rules? They can't do that. That's Americas job!
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