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Old 12-28-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: WY
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A 21 gun salute will no longer be available for Air Force veterans (unless they can find volunteer locals to perform the ceremony):

21-gun salute eliminated from Air Force funerals due to lack of funding, personnel | WATE 6 On Your Side
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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lol@ lack of funding.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Read the comments. It was never a 21 gun salute, it was 3 volleys. That is what my dad got when he was buried.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That is kind of dirty for the Air Force to do because they are basically saving money for themselves while asking the other branches to volunteer for their deceased veterans. Though as another pointed out, they deceased veterans don't actually get a traditional 21 gun salute, they haven't for a long time.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I didn't request one for my Dad (but he was army). Truth be told, he probably wouldn't have even wanted Taps or the folding of the flag because he was a very humble guy. Well, I KNOW he wouldn't have wanted it because he told me several times and I told him I was going to do it anyway. Ha!


We compromised by eliminating the 21 gun salute and it was still a beautiful and touching ceremony.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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Read the comments. It was never a 21 gun salute, it was 3 volleys. That is what my dad got when he was buried.
Isn't it 3 shots from seven guns and that's how they get the 21?
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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Isn't it 3 shots from seven guns and that's how they get the 21?
You are correct.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Isn't it 3 shots from seven guns and that's how they get the 21?

I performed 99 military burial details over 4 years in the Marine Corps. We never once had 7 riflemen at a funeral. It was usually 4-6 depending on who was available, plus the SNCO.


Many of the funeral details I was in were two Marines, folding the flag. We had some volunteers from the Frozen Chosin who would play live taps, but for the most part we used a trumpet with an attachment that played taps for you. The Marine would start the speaker and then bring the instrument to their lips and taps would play. Other times we would use a boom box to play taps.


The folded flag is the key and most important part of the ceremony. Expended brass from the rifle volley is sometimes inserted into the flag as it is folded.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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You are correct.

Mathematically yes, he's correct but the services do not do 21 gun salutes at service member funerals. It's a rifle detail that fires three volleys. Very different.
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Old 12-28-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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You are correct.
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I performed 99 military burial details over 4 years in the Marine Corps. We never once had 7 riflemen at a funeral. It was usually 4-6 depending on who was available, plus the SNCO.


Many of the funeral details I was in were two Marines, folding the flag. We had some volunteers from the Frozen Chosin who would play live taps, but for the most part we used a trumpet with an attachment that played taps for you. The Marine would start the speaker and then bring the instrument to their lips and taps would play. Other times we would use a boom box to play taps.


The folded flag is the key and most important part of the ceremony. Expended brass from the rifle volley is sometimes inserted into the flag as it is folded.
Thank you
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