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Old 12-31-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The police was found not guilty buy the court....so it appears you are the one we need to wonder about understanding....well....anything....you know, like the LAW.....
Sigh. Not Guilty, huh?

Who exactly rendered that verdict?

OJ was also found "Not Guilty" but he at least had to face a jury of his peers.
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Old 12-31-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Nobody in that courtroom was representing Tamir.
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Old 12-31-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:39 AM
 
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Ties that bind: how the bond between police and prosecutors impedes justice | US news | The Guardian
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Old 01-01-2016, 11:35 AM
 
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And lastly, why is he still on the force? Is the bar set that low? Cops just don't need to intentionally murder someone, and they are fit to literally police people's lives and handle a deadly weapon with impunity.[/quote]

Why is he still on the force?What do you think? The way police officers (especially white)are treated in todays cities it's a miracle they stick around at all. Like that genius mayor in Baltimore that gave carte blanche to the criminal scum to destroy and murder.

Who would want to put their lives in danger daily only to be sold out by a lowlife democrat politician. If that city burns to the ground well so what.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Well, I would only agree with increased pay IF that went along with higher standards in their hiring practices.

IF one has repeatedly failed in another city/state - one should not be given a job with a gun just because Daddy works there.
Can't increase hiring standards without increasing pay. And increasing hiring standards is really not even necessary if you have transparent hiring processes (which would probably be better than just higher standards).
Many departments are scrapping the barrel right now to find anyone whatsoever who can get certified. In our region, they barely filled two academy classes last year, ~90 potential new officers, with no screening, for over 40 departments covering ~1.5M people. Even if every single student was hired, regardless of screening or even graduating, it would not be enough to keep up with retirements from just the two largest of those 40 departments (covering about 600k people).

Why so few? It costs ~$700 just to apply, you start at under $25k per year as a cadet, and many of the departments are paying less than $35k/year as a full-time certified officer. The real cost is the 25 weeks 8-5 every weekday that you attend classes, during which you are barred from secondary employment. That is a big price to pay for a chance at $35k/yr or less.

If Cadets paid nothing, started at around $40k, and jumped up to $80k upon completion and full-time hire, those classes would be full and you would have a much hire level of candidates in there that would make any current hiring standards obsolete.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The county prosecutor is on air now blaming Rice and defending his officers.
Yet another case of a prosecutor leading a grand jury by the hand and explaining why he wants/doesn't want to prosecute.
Grand juries don't serve the people's interest. We need to do away with them completely...
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Sigh. Not Guilty, huh?

Who exactly rendered that verdict?

OJ was also found "Not Guilty" but he at least had to face a jury of his peers.
So the cop is guilty....sigh...I guess we need more laws.....
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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Really? When were the police found not guilty by the court? Link please.

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An Ohio grand jury has declined to indict the Cleveland police officer who fatally shot Tamir Rice, an unarmed black 12-year-old, in 2014.
No Indictment For Cop Who Fatally Shot 12-Year-Old Tamir Rice
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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I put it this way:

A Grand Jury didn't find probable cause to indict based on whatever evidence was shown to them by prosecutor who didn't want an indictment.

You might think that's better than a not guilty verdict in a trial because the GJ didn't even think the cops should go to trial.

Others feel it's a farce because a prosecutor who didn't want a trial to begin with conducted the GJ proceeding, which of course, validated his decision.

I lean to the farce interpretation of what happened, though my guess is they'd be found NG of criminal behavior by an impartial jury anyway.
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